Bush and Hitler?

Yes, but the comparison stops at "they are nothing alike".

Even though it's pointless?

Never said he was a Nazi[/quote]

You asked what "fascism" had to do with it. This made me think you were focusing on the fact he was a Nazi and not a fascist.

That's because I think some of the similarities are complete nonsense... like Roel pointed out.

Whata bout those bills he wants to pass about the mexicans[/quote]

AFAIK, they are against illegal immigrants and not solely against Mexians. I could be wrong.

I dont understand what you are trying to say.[/quote]

I am telling you that you are wrong. If you are going to say that two things look alike (like the Sherman and Tiger) they have to share some criteria/qualities. If they don't share these, they are not alike.

 

But do they not?

 

Some, but not enough to equate them. And more importantly, they are not traits that are are confinestatementd to these two nations alone. All in all they are not enough to make modern day America comparable to Nazi Germany in any noteworthy way.

 

Key word is noteworthy. Dosen't mean you cannot compare them.

 

Like he said, there are so few similarities and they are often so irrelevant to what can really be objected to in either country that a comparison is pointless. It would be more fruitful to criticize Bush on some of his real faults instead of trying to compare him to murderous tyrants of a practically unseen calibre.

 

So Bush to Stalin or Bush to Chairman Mao? No I am obviously kidding both those guys killed more people than Hitler.

 

Another similarity betveen Bush and Adolf:
Bush is like Shiki (Adolf), totaly detached from reality (situation on the ground).

 

I can't really see how any one with a right mind can call bush the same as hitler.................... um Gunter_Viezenz look at the President of Iran he slowly took power and has the full backing's of his people he push's the UN over for the idiot's they are then goes ahead with its Nuke Program (Hmmm Sounds like the French and Brits when Hitler took over Check)Comparing Bush to Hitler is like comparing Rock's to Leaves , Yes there both a solid object and have a mass but that is pretty much it......

 

Now TD :roll: , who did Iran invade under false pretences? Concerning Irans president's statments you should listen Bush more oftenly (like Cuba and Venezuela developing WMD's :roll: .... )
As for development of nukes. Now, as i recall there is a country in that region with around 200 nuclear warheads, illigally occupying part's of land that do not belong to her and practicing apartheid system. But Bush &co. won't tuch them (since they have a most powerful lobby in DC+ you should read what neocons advised Israeli PM a couple of years back = trusted allies).

As for pushing UN around i hope that your memory goes back to run up to invasion of Iraq.

 

This is certainly one of the most mindless threads I've seen in some time.
Thanks for reminding me of the stupidity and ignorance of people in general today.

Tim

 

Tim, such comments can get you moderated. I respectfully suggest that you might want to use a bit more caution in future comments.

I think TISO's comments are completely off the mark, but he does have the right to make those comments and have his opinions. Just like I have the right to totally disagree with him and them.

 

Seconded. Calling other members stupid and ignorant is not allowed even if those members are implied instead of explicitly mentioned. If you have a solid argument to disprove their points then by all means, present it! I'm sure it can't be very hard...

 

Belsen-Bergen

If anyone really wants to see what a 'Death Camp' looks like, log onto this site, one of many, then compare Bush with Hitler. I have to be careful not to upset anyones feelings, but some of the postings on this thread are an insult to the dead of Belsen-Bergen, Treblinka, Dachau and many more.
http://isurvived.org/Belsen-Bergen_liberation.html

 

corpcasselbury/Roel:
Noted. Thanks.

Ricky:
Feel free to edit at your discretion, but I'm honestly a bit shocked that this entire thread wasn't deleted as offensive at it's inception.

Tim

 

bergen Belsen

I think the site I gave should have read,
http://isurvived.org/Bergen-Belsen_liberation.html
(this is one of many)

 

Read the book 168 jumped into hell. I think thats the name fo the book, its about 168 air force crew members who bailed out one night and they were sent to Buchenwald concentration camp, than the death march(s).

 

yesterdays news.

the following was posted in todays Daily Telegraph.
"HOLOCAUST FILES COULD BE OPENED"
GERMANY has set the stage a decision in mid-May on opening NAZI records on 17 millionpeople killed before and during the second World War in a pursuit of racial 'superiority'.
Eleven nations overseeing the 30 million to 50 million documents in the German town Bad Arolsen will vote on whether to amend a 1955 treaty to allow access to the documents. Until now, Germany has resisted, citing privacy concerns.
Even while using mass murder to try to eradicate European Jews and others they considered inferior, the Nazis kept scrupulous records of their work."
Don't hold your breath!.

 

It was created by me, split off from another topic. I would have liked to express my doubts about it when I did, but then again I can't appear to be too biased as an administrator, I should encourage a fair debate. Besides, a comparison is never offensive as long as it is as quickly and thorougly defused as this one.

 

Israel is not a Reich incarnation. Most, if not all, land under disputable control of Israel was fair game, so to speak. Judaea and Samaria, and the Golan Heights were taken during war, the Six Days thereof, and should be counted as victory trophies for a war they did not start (well technically Israel started it, but only to preempt an Egyptian move). Other regions are occupied because they pose a severe threat to Israel. If neighboring suicide bombers were attacking one of our countries, I would hope we do something about it.

And about apratheid, Israeli law grants citizenship to anyone of the Jewish faith. Sure, there is going to be some discrepency between social statuses of Jewish Israelis and Arab Israelis, but not to the extent of aparthied in which it is infamous, such as South Africa. Arabs living in Israel, and many other countries, tend to seperate themselves socially from other ethnicities and nationalities, and any de facto segregation can be blammed on the Arab's part as much as it can be the Israeli's fault.

Israel having nuclear weapons doesn't scare me a fraction of the way Russia, China, India, and Pakistan's nuclear proliferation does.

 

Now, that would depend if you are palestinian or not.

If you use that argument that could be said for large parts of Europe during 1941.

Say that about Jews before WW2. You'll be branded as antisemite in notime.
It seems that you don't know much about ressetlement/expulsions of Palestinians (refugee camps) in 1948 and taking of their land.