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Discussion in 'What If - Other' started by LRusso216, Jun 25, 2009.

  1. Tomcat

    Tomcat The One From Down Under

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    Not just that, it would increase pressure on Germany by allies being able to use Norwegian airbases, and hit north Germany alot more often due to the flights being shorter. Also the Germans would then need to completely reinforce the entire North coast of Germany, much like the Atlantic wall, pulling more troops away from any of the fronts, effectively making Germany surrounded.
     
  2. colletorww2

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    But they might have started production of the atomic bomb in germany, but i doubt they would have gotten it in time.
     
  3. Tomcat

    Tomcat The One From Down Under

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    I don't understand, how are the Germans going to achieve this by losing Norway?
     
  4. colletorww2

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    I guess you are right...
     
  5. USMC

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    Very true. And it is quite possible that the allied invasion could have came from Norway into either Denmark or Northern Germany.
     
  6. urqh

    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    well it would have taken more boots than we sent. the southern force was ta based uk type forces without adequate support..art/sigs/logistics and even training and command structure..showed up on meeting the german. narvik boots lacked air support in general for any prolonged campaign. boots on ground fared better initially but simply would not have held once germans got act together..never reinforce failure..a lesson we would still have probs with on leaving norway behind.
     
  7. Tomcat

    Tomcat The One From Down Under

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    boots?
     
  8. USMC

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    slang for troops....
     
  9. urqh

    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    cheers usmc..sorry..yes indeed boots on the ground..forces slang..but enough times stated in iraq and afghan type actions by media and politicians..ill revert to civvy speak..apologies.
     
  10. USMC

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    I know because im in Marine Corps ROTC
     
  11. Bulldog1653

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    I have 2 battle opinions.
    Operation Market Garden should have had a lot more support than it did. As a result there were a lot of needless deaths.
    Pearl Harbor is my other opinion. The Pacific Fleet should have been on full alert and when the radar picked up the planes, the AAF should have scrambled their planes. It would have made a major change in the outcome.
     
  12. USMC

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    Operation Market Garden was a total mess because more men were required for the job and other logistical mishaps occured.
     
  13. redcoat

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    Unlikely, it was a night attack.
    Me 109's might have been useful against a bomber stream with hundreds of bombers on a moonlight night, but against a dozen or so torpedo bombers at low level they would have been useless.
     
  14. USMC

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    They would have certainly made an effect on the mission though. Also in this case the Italian ships would have been alerted by the Luftwaffe planes so the AA guns on the ships would be ready.
     
  15. redcoat

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    How would they have alerted the Italians ?????
    Remember it was a night attack and the Me 109 didn't carry radar.

    ps: The Italian's were fully alert anyway. One of the torpedo bombers had got separated from the others and arrived early, the Italians picked up the sound of its engine and went on full alert.
    By the time the other Swordfish arrived the sky above the port was full of searchlights and AA fire.
     
  16. USMC

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    Ok. But do not say a wing of ME109's would be useless. They would bag at least a few Swordfish.
     
  17. redcoat

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    Hurtgen Forest, There was no real need to attack it, so don't bother.
     
  18. redcoat

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    How ????
    How do you shoot down something you can't find ?
     
  19. rockytony

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    I would not have held back Generals Patton and Bradley at the Falaise Gap letting them proceed and possibly finished off the 50,000 Germans who escaped to regroup and fight their offensive in Northen France and Belgium. This action might have shortened the war and eliminated having to fight at Bastone and bloody Battle of the Bulge. And let Montgomery finish his tea.
     
  20. redcoat

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    It was Bradley who made the decision to hold back Patton as he was fearful that if the US forces tried to close the gap they would be overwelmed.

    "I much preferred," Bradley recollected subsequently, "a solid shoulder at Argentan to the possibility of a broken neck at Falaise."
     

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