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Could the Western Allies Win Without the USSR?

Discussion in 'What If - European Theater - Western Front & Atlan' started by Guaporense, Nov 11, 2009.

  1. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    It seems quite hard to think otherwise for me if you think all the ostfront units had been waiting for Overlord in the west....
     
  2. lwd

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    There's your problem. They wouldn't have been. Of course even if they were that wouldn't stop the German cities from glowing in the dark.
     
  3. RichTO90

    RichTO90 Well-Known Member

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    That is the intrinsic problem with this scenario; why is there no Russo-German war?

    Does the USSR simply not exist? In that case, sure, Germany has more available manpower, but would it keep them in the Heer? Or turn them towards that c. 7-million shortfall in labor they had - no war in the east, then no influx of slave labor from the east. And wouldn't they want to rebalance their forces to have a larger Luftwaffe to counter the Western allies immense strength in that area?

    Or if the USSR exists, but somehow the Molotov-Ribbentrop accord holds, Hitler decides not to attack his "ally" and concentrates in the West. There is still no way Germany can successfully invade England in 1941 or later. Again the Germans still have the problem of labor demands and unbalanced forces...and the notion there would be zero forces in the East guarding against the Soviets is an unlikely assumption as well. Then you have the problem that the Atlantic Wal may be some 1,700 miles long, but the German periphery where they can be attacked is much greater - through Greece and the Balkans, Italy, the Southern French Coast, and Norway - all those suck up the additional troops too.

    Then there is the case that without having to supply massive quantities of finished war materiel to the Soviets, American industry might not absorb so much manpower, liberating strength for an additional 10, 20 or even 30 divisions for Europe.

    And so on...
     
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  4. OpanaPointer

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    If the USSR doesn't exist who would be the allies of the Ukraine, Hitler's new breadbasket for Germany?
     
  5. Sloniksp

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    How many lives would the Allies be willing to sacrifice for peace in Europe?

    Considering that Western Europe was all but occupied by Nazi Germany, the question then lays with GB and the US.
     

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