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Discussion in 'What If - Other' started by dd09999, Jul 10, 2008.

  1. T. A. Gardner

    T. A. Gardner Genuine Chief

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    Your first attempt, I don't know how to respond. It is hardly any sort of organzed unit. You simply list a handful of the types of equipment it will use.

    Your second unit has some serious problems and limitations:

    Biggest is that you have 12 company sized units working under, assumedly, a single headquarters. That spreads the command structure very thin.
    Next, the construction units are largely worthless unless they have materials at hand when they land. This is going to be unlikely in many, if not most, cases. Paratroops rarely drop into woods or wooded areas. Areas without suitable trees / materials will also present problems.
    Your Alpha company is largely worthless as there are too many assigned as scouts to too little resources backing them. Snipers are annoying but largely worthless on a battlefield in the larger scale of things. If it were me and I were taking fire from one or several snipers I'd simply try harder to localize their position and then plaster it with artillery. Snipers also do little to tanks.


    As an alternative I'd suggest an "Airhead Regiment." This unit would follow the landing of a regular parachute regiment or division. Their purpose would be to build an airhead into which reinforcements could be flown.

    It would consist first of a glider landing battalion of airfield engineers. Their equipment would include 3 small bulldozers, 3 towable road graders with jeeps to tow them, 3 tall grass lawn mowers (towed) with jeeps, three disassembled 2 1/2 ton dump trucks. They would have a range of hand and power tools to assist in clearing, surveying, and laying out a grass landing strip suitable for a C47 sized cargo plane to land on within 72 hours of arriving.
    The second battalion would be a parachute engineer unit that had the hand and power tools to start construction of the above site and also to clear and render it safe for the gliders to land. Their equipment would include marker lights, homing beacons, and other navigational and landing aids for this purpose.
    The third battalion would also be glider borne and consist of a supply and maintenance unit capable of recovering the gliders, setting up a suitable camp area with tents, and providing basic maintenance to the other units along with being the first echelon repair unit for aircraft that land on the operational field.

    Once the grass field is up and running, the transports would fly in supplies and building materials to improve the site. Landing mats, rubber fuel and water bladders, pumps, water purification units, and more construction equipment.
    Within a week the site would be sufficently prepared that daily reinforcements could be flown in and the air head expanded. Now, with reinforcements, artillery, vehicles, and a means to supply them this air head would be either a thorn in the enemy's rear or a temporary defensive site that could be advanced on by ground troops.
    It would have been incredibly useful in the Pacific in particular.
     
  2. Mortman2004

    Mortman2004 Dishonorably Discharged

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    Id just take darbys rangers and both the 101st airborne divisions with a couple BNS of t-34s lol Oh and the first special service force.. LOL it would eb big but hey why not
     
  3. german mauser k98k man

    german mauser k98k man Member

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    ok,
    Nailtonality German
    tank Tiger 2, tiger, panther
    primarary weapons fg42, mg42, mg34, m60, 50 cal browning , mauser98k , fn fal , mosion nagant, m14 , m1 garand, k43.

    standard pistol wather p38

    sniper rifle mauser98k[scoped]

    size 10,000 infantry
    550 medics
    750 cargo
    100 tanks[support]
    50 artillery[support]
    7,000 transport
     
  4. Tomahawk720

    Tomahawk720 Member

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    Nationality: American
    Branch: USMC
    72nd Marine Storm Division

    Regeiments:

    409th Paratrooper Infantry Regiement
    - Batalions:
    9th Battalion
    - Companies:
    Dog- Forward Attack Company
    Bravo- Shadow Attack Company
    Easy- Flank Attack Company
    Whiskey- Reserve Attack Company
    25th Battalion
    - Companies:
    Able- Forward Attack Company
    Fox- Shadow Attack Company
    Baker- Flank Attack Company
    Galt- Reserve Attack Company

    518th Armoured Regiment
    -Battalions:
    7th Battalion
    -Companies
    Charlie- Forward Attack Company
    Lu- Shadow Attack Company
    Halo- Flank Attack Company
    Issac- Reserve Attack Company
    19th Battalion
    -Companies
    May- Forward Attack Company
    Zulu- Shadow Attack Company
    X-Ray- Flank Attack Company
    Kit- Reserve Attack Company

    332nd Marine Regiment
    -Battalions
    12th Battalion
    -Companies:
    Jacob- Forward Attack Company
    Nitro- Shadow Attack Company
    Oswald- Flank Attack Company
    Penny- Reserve Attack Company
    28th Battalion
    -Companies:
    Quail- Forward Attack Company
    Rick- Shadow Attack Company
    Styk- Flank Attack Company
    Vulture- Reserve Attack Company

    Weapons-
    Pistol: Beretta M1934
    Rifle: M1 Garand, M1A1 Carbine, Lee- Enfield SMLE
    SMG: Thompson, PPSH42, MP40, Sten
    Assault Weapon: BAR, MP44, Bren, PPSH, FG-42
    Sniper Rifle: Mosin Nagant scoped, M1D Garand, Kar98k scoped
    MG: MG-42, Browning 50.cal, Browning 30, cal
    Flamethrowers: Type 93/ Type 100
    Gernades: Mk.2, No. 82 Gammon Gernades, Model 24
    Anti-Tank weapons: Panzershrek, M18 Recoiless Rifle
    Mortar: M19

    Vehicles-
    Jeeps:Willy's
    Armored Cars: M38 Greyhound
    Tanks: Tiger, T-34, M4 Sherman, M3 Grant
    Tank Destroyers: Panzerjager
    Halftracks: SdKfz 4
    AA: Flakpanzer
    Amphibous: DUKW
    Aircraft: C-47, P-51, Me 109, B-50, Zero, F6F Hellcat, SB2C Helldiver, Kate
    Artilery: 105 mm Howitzer M2



    Rundown
    Troops: 13,000
    Tanks: 250
    Artilery: 75
    Aircraft: 200 (mostly transports)
    Transports: 900
     
  5. german mauser k98k man

    german mauser k98k man Member

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    Too add on

    5 special forces teams


    2,000 resevest

    40[fixed]ammo dumps
    900[mobile] ammo dumps[or whatever you wanna call them]

    AA flack 40 and 88

    self- porpelled artillery-hummel and wespe

    tank destoyers jagdpanther - sdkfz173, marder


    apc sdkfz251

    transport opel bliz, maultier,sdkfz11, kubelwagen

    artillery GUSTAV[yea baby]
     
  6. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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  7. Totenkopf

    Totenkopf אוּרִיאֵל

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    Well Terry, (Can I call you Terry?) I must totally admit that you are correct; so I shall. It was meant to be largly a :more on the combat scale: Airborne Engineer division. Thanks for reconstructing my Division:p
     
  8. Fallschirmjaeger

    Fallschirmjaeger Member

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    Divisional Status:Infantry
    Nationality: German
    Tanks: King Tigers, M26 Pershings
    Primary firearms: G-43, StG 44, BAR
    MG-MachienGewhler42, and Browning .50 cal
     
  9. Totenkopf

    Totenkopf אוּרִיאֵל

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    Rocket Artillery division
    10 companies
    Nationality:Soviet
    Vehicles: ZIS-6 Transport, Katusha Rocket Truck, T-60

    Companies Structure.
    3 Platoons of 50 men each Plus 1 T-60 for each platoon

    Each Platoon Has 5 Katusha Trucks with 5 men on each with the additional 25 riding on ZIS-6 Transports with Rockets for reloading. (These 25 will divide into 5 to help each Rocket team reload faster.

    The 10th will have 30 T-60s and 10 transports carrying additional fuel

    Purpose: To act in cooperation with Infantry divisions in the fields and to reinforce defensive positions.

    Now could somebody rate this?
     
  10. anglomanii

    anglomanii recruit

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    Australian mechanized division using mk 3 and 4 sentinel tanks as main AFV rest as is because you cant beat Australian infantry
     
  11. 4th wilts

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    18,000 tom hank,s,with a easy company.
    or,43rd wessex div,with a regt of js2m tanks.:confused:cheers.
     
  12. Kruska

    Kruska Member

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    The Division GROSSDEUTSCHLAND should do the trick. :)

    Regards
    Kruska
     
  13. Joe

    Joe Ace

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    I'll join in and do this properly. :)

    Infantry weapons
    Lee-Enfield No.4, M1A1 Carbine, Bren, Thompson M1A1, Webley Mk IV revolvers, Panzershreck.

    Support weapons
    Vickers MMG, 3" mortar, 6pdr AT

    Tanks
    MBT-A34 Comet
    Recce-M5 Stuart
    Infantry support- Churchill Crocodile

    Tank Destroyers
    Achilles (M10 w/17pdr)
    SU-76

    SP Artillery
    Wespe
    Hummel
    SU-152
    Ostwind

    Other Vehicles
    Bren Carrier w/ Vickers MMG
    Bren Carrier w/3" Mortar
    Universal carrier
    CCKW-353
    Dingo AC
    SdKfz 231
    SdKfz 251
    DUCKW

    Artillery
    25pdr
    5.5 inch

    AAA
    Bofors 40mm
    Triple Oerlikon 20mm
    3.7 inch
     
  14. JCFalkenbergIII

    JCFalkenbergIII Expert

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    Wow! Can you just imagine a universe where you could pick and chose your men and weapons from yours and your enemies? :rolleyes: How about picking your Divisional Generals and other officers from the opposing sides too while you are at it?
     
  15. T. A. Gardner

    T. A. Gardner Genuine Chief

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    Joe: I hate to break it to you, but a list of weapons is not a division orgainzation. It is a list of weapons.......
     
  16. JCFalkenbergIII

    JCFalkenbergIII Expert

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    Once again LOGISTICS, What about the mix of foreign vehicles and weapons? The differents calibers alone would be a hinderance to combat supply. Or the parts and maintinence? Or are we saying in this fantasy world that one country would be producing both thier own and the weapons and vehicles of thier enemy?
     
  17. Lias_Co_Pilot

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    As a kid, I always wanted to put together a fleet whose mission is to conduct hit and run raids-trying to draw out the Japanese fleet and sink anything that came out. The fleet would be composed of:

    3 Essex Class Carriers (for heavy hitting)
    6 light carriers (anti sub & CAP purposes)
    6 older battleships
    3 Heavy cruisers
    12 Light cruisers
    50 destroyers
    12 PT Boats
    6 Catalinas

    plus support ships
     
  18. Joe

    Joe Ace

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    :bastid:
    Yeah well, I like my list of weapons!
     
  19. W Marlowe

    W Marlowe WWII Veteran

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    Gentelmen:

    Any sucessful military formation is dependent on its ability to support combat operations. I would be willing to settle for second class weapons if I got a robust support group. Running out of ammunition,medical supplies, and commasariat is an un mitigated disaster.

    The way the Russian beat the Sixth Army at Stalingrad was to eleminate their ability to resupply. Contrary to what Goering said the Luftwaffe could not supply the Sixth Army.
    As Ever,

    Walter L. Marlowe

    ( Airborne All the Way)
     
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  20. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Logisitics....who needs it? Apparently any successful army.

     

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