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Determining US symbol was founded in Eastern Front

Discussion in 'American WWII Uniforms and Equipment' started by Arthur_Sidorov, Oct 3, 2018.

  1. Arthur_Sidorov

    Arthur_Sidorov New Member

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    Hi guys!

    My name is Arthur, I was born and lived in Veliky Novgorod Veliky Novgorod - Wikipedia This is an average city in the North-West region of Russia. From August 15, 1941 to January 20, 1944, the city was occupied by German-Spanish troops. In January 1944, V. Novgorod was liberated by the USSR army.

    In 2005, I found this (related to pic) in the old city cemetery (Google Maps Google Maps)
    Help determine which symbol of the USA I found?



    Thanks!
     

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  2. ColHessler

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    I know a U.S. regiment was near Arkangelsk during the Russian Civil War, with the Allied contingent helping the Whites against the Reds, but I didn't think any of them went far south. It was the 339th Infantry. It could be from them.
     
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    Three artillery shells each side probably Probably Field Artillery
     
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    Looks more like eagle talons to me.
     
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    I believe they're talons as well.......if that is in fact a pin from U.S Soldiers in the Russian Civil War, you have a very unique and rare piece........
     
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    It's more probable it was brought by a Soviet soldier who met American soldiers at the Elbe River or served in the Group of Soviet Occupation Forces in Germany or the later Group of Soviet Forces in Germany.
    Or maybe it's a fantasy piece.
     
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    George Patton Canadian Refugee

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    I've spent some time searching for this and haven't had any luck.

    This is a purely subjective observation, but that piece just doesn't seem "military" to me. It does not appear to follow a known pattern of insignia, and the "eagle" looks more like a chicken. I think a "fantasy piece" is what it could be -- seems to be a piece someone made to mimic a proper US insignia, rather than the real deal itself.
     
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    In this case, I suppose it could have been a part of the popular in communist countries "Western" military jackets or similar attires. They were really Western but produced locally or brought from Turkey or Asia.
    As the local money wasn't worth much they had to be produced as cheap as possible but had little to no resemblance to originals.
     

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