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  1. Ilhawk

    Ilhawk New Member

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    Again Econ 101. Japan is in deep trouble. They are slowly dying. The advantage they have is that their society isn't likely to riot in the streets.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikkei_225#/media/File:Nikkei_225.png

    It peaked over 20 years ago. Check this out from 4 years ago. Hasn't gotten any better.
    http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2012-04-25/three-reasons-japan-s-economic-pain-is-getting-worse

    The main difference is that Japan has refused to print, unlike the rest of the world. The rest are simply putting off the inevitable.

    Let me give you a quick piece of advise. Negative interest rates are not a good thing.

    Btw, Japan was a bad example to compare. They don't have the population to keep driving stocks and other assets. Balloons w/o air...are worthless. Japan's balloon is hemorrhaging.
     
  2. Poppy

    Poppy grasshopper

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    MK has yet to cast his vote. Fair enough to trash trump, but at least post your vote. ..Because if it is for hillary- lol.
    Nature must run its course, without the hand of government.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faire
     
  3. Ilhawk

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    Ironically there are only 2 candidates that truly understand what is happening economically. One just dropped out (Paul) and the other is Bernie. Complete opposites, but they do get it. Not sure they get the fix, but they do understand.
     
  4. Ilhawk

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    My state of Illinois is dying. They are the leading edge of a number of issues about to drop. The other big problem is the fast and occurring problem of the lack of liquidity in the banking industry. Too much tied to derivatives. Once the bottom drops on the market (and it will), it will freeze solid a number of banks. Problem is that the Fed and for sure ECB as well as BOJ have fired about all their weapons. They've capitulated with negative interest rates to get all to spend (what they don't have). The immigrants are also a last ditch effort. Many thought it was about social democrat benevolence. It's about who's going to have the best house in a bad neighborhood. Gonna be ugly.

    Haven't even brought up the Chinese asteroid straight ahead.
     
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    LJAD, have you stopped to ponder what the Nikkei numbers actually mean. It would be like investing 100,000 Euro's in the market for retirement and 20 years later it has ballooned to a big 25,000 Euro's. And Japan doesn't even have Christian politicians believing in fables. Japan is about the biggest westernized nation with the least Christian influence.

    Btw, when the markets crashed in the Great Recession, the money didn't just vaporize out of retirement investment accounts. It went to corporations and large investors such as Soros who knew what was going down and bought put options.

    Go ahead and pick at your and m kenny's petty anger toward Christians and miss the real story.
     
  6. CAC

    CAC Ace of Spades

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    Only one catholic President...anyone guess...?
     
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    belasar Court Jester

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    JFK
     
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    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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  9. LJAd

    LJAd Well-Known Member

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    Reality is that to import millions of young men will not solve the problem, it will only worse them . The problem is not demographics (demographics were not different BEFORE the crisis) but a shortage of jobs : there is a big unemployment problem in Europe:more than 2.5 million unemployed in Germany,and,because of the arrival of the migrants,this figure will only rise .
     
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    CAC Ace of Spades

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    That's right...the pie gets sliced thinner...if they are not paying tax, the pie gets no bigger...Is there a GST in Europe (Goods and Services Tax) - With that, even welfare people pay tax...
     
  11. LJAd

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    In august 2015 the unemployment rate in Europe 28 was 9.5 % (not much higher than before the crisis ),more than 17 million,thus why to allow/import additional workers for whom there is no work.

    In the same month,the unemployment rate in the US was 5.1 %. Last december,it was 3.3 % for Japan .
     
  12. lwd

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    Or not. Certainly the "big problem" for Germany isn't unemployment. German unemployment is at record lows and pretty close to the theoretical ideal levels from what I recall. Furthermore the arrival of migrants doesn't necessarily increase the unemployment problem. That said the huge influx of refugees, not quite the same as migrants, will likely create some problems. Demands for goods and services will go up, likely crime rates as well. The competition for low wage unskilled jobs will become more intense so for a while anyway people working in those occupations will probably see a rise in unemployment. Higher up the food chain the opposite will probably be the case. The long term impact will depend a lot on how many stay and how many return or move on. Those that do well are going to be more likely to stay and will contribute to the German economy.
     
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    Fred Wilson "The" Rogue of Rogues

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    Thanks Dave. Did you revoke his US Citizenship in the same blow? Bonus points if so...

    "Put him in an aluminum rowboat, give him a ping pong paddle, shove him off the shore and challenge him to find ONE COUNTRY that would take him in."
    I hear the north east coast of Africa is largely unguarded. Perhaps he could sneak into the jungle thereabouts.
     
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    Unfortunately, LJAd, you have no grasp on reality at all.

    The reality is...That as of October 2015, Germany had an unemployment rate of 4.5%.
    The reality is...That Germany's unemployment rate has been steadily declining since July, 2009, when it was 7.9%, and has continued to decline despite the influx of immigrants and refugees.

    So, I am left to wonder what and where is Germany's big unemployment problem?
     
  15. Ilhawk

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    You guys just don't get it. There is no one available to buy existing homes. There is no one to buy into stocks. The there is no one left to buy trinkets and beads. Population growth is desperately needed. Its not happening without artificial means. It is a global depression brought on by debt, demographics, false euphoria, and China over production. Leaders do understand and are desperate. Immigration is a desperate move. Why do you really think there are war in Ukraine and Syria? Its about oil and oil depression and desperate moves to keep afloat. Wait and see what happens as the Saudi's unravel. Don't think its just about oil sales dependent nations. US and Royal Dutch interests are also desperate. Just watch.
     
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    Wrong : Germany expects that unemployment will rise this year,because of immigration .
     
  17. Takao

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    Yes, and by what? 60, 000. It's only taken 4 years of mid-east immigration.

    Your alarmist scare tactics and your logic still continue to ring hollow.
     
  18. LJAd

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    The German december unemployed figures (published on 5 january) were :2.75 million (= 6.3 % of the workforce );other sources mention 2.9 million .In december 2014,unemployment was 2.8 million;thus a stagnation .

    What would be the benefit of the arrival of 1 million migrants for a country with 2.8 million unemployed ?
     
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    No :it is the opposite : Europe is overpopulated with very bad results fot the housing market : existing homes are much to expensive .A flat is already 300000 Euro,while the average net wage is 1500 euro .
    And the war in Syria (there is no war in Ukraine) is not about oil : there is only little oil in Syria and there is a big surplus of oil on the market .If Obama had remained neutral, ISIS would have already be defeated and everything would be calm .

    There is also no global depression,as the economic situation in the US is (for the moment ) not that bad .
     
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