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Discussion in 'The Stump' started by CAC, Dec 9, 2015.

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  1. Takao

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    Looks like it is 4.5% and not 6.3%
    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/germany/unemployment-rate

    Although different sources give different numbers.
    http://www.ibtimes.com/germany-unemployment-rate-record-low-euro-area-jobless-rate-5-year-low-2289780
    Hmmm...Germany's jobless rate is at a 5-year low...Not bad for all those immigrants coming into Germany.

    I'm sorry LJAd, what were you saying about Germany's big unemployment problems?
     
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    ??? As a country Germany essentially has no unemployment problem. An economy like that of Germany or the US needs an unemployment rate around 5% plus or minus a percent or two. That doesn't mean that it isn't a problem for the unemployed but that's a different matter. Even that 6.3% (that's the annual figure right) is a record low at least since the unification I believe.
     
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    NO : it it was 4.5 % of the workforce, the workforce would be 61 million,which is out of the question .

    if it was 4.5 % of the population, the number of unemployed would be 3.6 million which is out of the question .

    But if it was 6.3 % of the workforce,the workforce would be 43 million which is very probable .


    Besides,what is important is not the unemployment rate,but the number of unemployed : some 2. 8 million,which remains the same since a year .

    For Euro 28 (the 28 members of the EU) the number of unemployed is more than 17 million,and it will not decrease in the near future .
     
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    I am not : if there was big fighting in Ukraine, all TV networks would talk about ;they do not . There is no news about the Ukraine on European networks ;if you would ask people about a war in Ukraine, they would answer you : what war ?
     
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    The crisis in Europe is not a production problem (if needed production can immediately be increased) but a consumption problem :people are consuming less,because they have less money .At the end of this year there will be more than 1 million Muslim immigrants in Germany fit to work . 99 % of them will be unemployed,because there is no work,and for everyone of them who gets work, one (or more ) Germans will lose their job .
     
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    It is 4.5% using the harmonised jobless rate


     
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    German's are consuming less???
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cc7c0aca-baa4-11e5-b151-8e15c9a029fb.html#axzz3zEK0Adb4

    Apparently not...

    But, then again, LJAd never lets facts stand in the way.
     
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    Besides adding more people to the equation is pretty much guaranteed to increase demand which will likely lead to further increases in consumption.
     
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    The migrants will cost Germany this year 50 billion euro,result will be : more taxes, more taxes means less money for the tax payer,thus he will consume less . Germany is almost broken, that's why the German finance minister proposed a European fuel tax = the other Europeans should pay these 50 billion . But the outcry was that strong that Schäuble immediately withdrawed his proposal .
     
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    Ahh...So, that is LJAd's problem. Reading comprehension.

    It is an estimated €22 billion this year, and €27.6 billion next year.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/12135244/Migrant-crisis-to-cost-Germany-50-billion-by-2017.html

    Quite a leap from September, 2015, when it was 1.8 billion and 3.3 billion euros
    http://www.streetinsider.com/Reuters/Refugee+benefits+may+cost+Germany+3.3+billion+euros+more+in+2016%3A+minister/10856867.html
    http://www.ibtimes.com/eu-migrant-crisis-2015-germany-could-spend-billions-refugee-care-integration-labor-2077105

    I wonder who screwed up on their numbers...
     
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    Maybe we could meet in east Ukraine and have a beer with my Russian Ukrainian friends and my Ukrainian Ukrainian friends and have a beer together with them and talk about it. You can ask them "what war".
     
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    I just drop in to see a car crash in slow motion.

    The Donald still has the gum marks on his bumper from when he had a Hillary sticker on his limousine. I think (I hope) Cruz knocks the Donald completely out in the next two states.

    Epic thread!
     
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    Haha :who is talking about reading problems ?

    2015 : the official liars were predicting 800000 migrants and a cost of 11 billion euro, reality was 1.1 million and 22.7 billion .

    2016 : official prognoses (from the official liars) are : more than 1 million and 27 billion euro .

    But,as one could expect, the Merkel gang is disguising the fact that the 1.1 million of 2015 will continue to cost.

    Thus the real cost in 2016 will be : 22.7 billion for the 1.1 million from 2015 + 27 billion for the + 1 million who will arrive this year = a total of 50 billion .

    And for 2017, the cost will be 50 billion + X billion for the new comers of 2017 .Probably more than 80 billion


    And for 2018,one can expect a cost of more than 100 billion .And the economic and social collaps of Germany .
     
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    Your hope is not confirmed by the polls who are

    1 Trump 29 %

    2 Rubio 18 %

    3 Cruz : 13 %
     
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    It is true that left wing media can under report numbers and incidents...happens here anyway...
     
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    Darth Trump was also leading in the Iowa polls...

    Does this mean he will lose again?
     
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    They are polls. Basically, a small sampling of people who's answers are extrapolated to represent the larger whole.
     
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