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Discussion in 'The Stump' started by CAC, Dec 9, 2015.

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  1. Takao

    Takao Ace

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    It would not be the first time one party or the other was divided for a presidential election.
     
  2. Ilhawk

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    I'll just be glad when the election nightmare is over with. Probably whoever is elected won't do to much damage. Right?
     
  3. Takao

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    Being overly optimistic aren't you?

    With the current list of prospective candidates, I'm thinking that this nightmare is going to last 4 years, regardless of who is finally elected in November.
     
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    I watched about five minutes of last night's "debate". I thought a debate was reasoned discourse answering the moderator's questions in such a way as to distinguish how your policies are different from your opponents. I heard nothing about policy. Instead, we were "treated" to what amounted to a school-yard brawl. If those four are the best the Republican party has to offer, there will be no contest in November.
     
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    Wrong
     
  6. Tamino

    Tamino Doc - The Deplorable

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    I'm neutral here and an absolute illiterate for the US internal affairs. Anyways, a question:

    Q: Are Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Trump the best America can produce or should I ask why Americans have so lousy choice?
     
  7. CAC

    CAC Ace of Spades

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    Yeah the kennedys...the bushs...the Clintons...is this shite nepotism on the highest job in the world?
     
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    belasar Court Jester

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    Said the guy with a hereditary Queen :)
     
  9. CAC

    CAC Ace of Spades

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    Our Queen is head of state...a figure...with ZERO power over Australia...we don't even have to defend her these days...entirely up to us.
    One can't compare the president of the US to the Queen...apples and oranges...
     
  10. Ilhawk

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    It's compicated

    1. It takes a lot of money.
    2. Career politicians are almost impossible to uproot.
    3. Getting past the part line almost impossible
    4. The internet destroys a lot of people.
    5. The internet makes it hard to hide things. Everything is visible.
    6. Corruption in key big states make it almost impossible to beat the system.
    7. Republics are harder to change than democracies. It was sort of designed that way for stability.
    8. American culture..Cowboy movies have always been popular
    9. Corruption and power
    10. Corruption and power
    11. Corruption and power
    12. Corruption and power.

    And corruption here pales in comparison to other countries even some "democratic" nations.

    There are several deep concerns that can't be touched without immediate backlash in media and internet. Voters are getting apathetic.
    Mostly only those with serious issues can and will withstand the firestorm. Sensible people need not apply.

    Basically, the left has most of the money as individual politicians. They get the poor to vote for them and policies that are detrimental to the poor.

    The right took on several key social issues dear to many middle class, but enact policy that empowers major players even more as the middle class shrinks and becomes indifferent.

    The Govt and business formerly had antagonistic relationships. Now they sleep in the same bed. Major media has become dependent on advertising money that are actually campaign contributions as media becomes beholden to the politicians. Fear of audits and so forth.
     
  11. Takao

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    Ahhh, a typical foreigner...

    You forgot about
    Adams - John & John Quincy, father & son, 2nd & 6th Presidents.
    Harrisons - William Henry & Benjamin, grandfather & grandson, 9th & 23rd Presidents.
    James Madison & Zachary Taylor, 2nd cousins, 4th & 12th Presidents.
    Roosevelts - Theodore & Franklin, 5th cousins, 26th & 32nd Presidents.
     
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    Not a fan of Trump, but at least he hasn't been transmogrified by political corruption/ years of lying and meaner than a junk yard dog, like clinton...
    Funny how trump loses it when anyone says anything about his hair or hands. ..Shocked about his "hand size" reference the other night.
    A gay president would be ok, as long as he didn't lie about his past (cough, rubio- bubble boy ).
    Would be ok with Sanders, because it would really piss Saudi Arabia, Iran etc off...US needs a female republican jew to run for pres... KSA's head would explode having to shake hands. That would be awesome.
     
  13. Takao

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    He's a reality TV show personality...He's got all of that plus some.


    Google "short-fingered vulgarian"
     
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    He is mean to regular peoples. Made tv that a lot of Americans watched.
    Hillary is another level. Her intimidating a lot of Bills' (to be nice) "conquests" into silence, her contempt for military (as Obama) and her security detail (stories of what a bitch she is are legion), her disregard for regular people rules (email scandal), Whitewater, etc etc etc. And it seems like she has serious health issues.
    What has anyone got on trump, other than he is a narcissist jerk, has small hands, bad hair, and not a great businessman
     
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    CAC Ace of Spades

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    So how long before either of these two are impeached? Could either go the distance?
     
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    A: Because, for some time now, elections are not about who you are voting for, but who you are voting against.
     
  17. Takao

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    Trump, easily within his first 100 days. He's too used to doing things his own way.

    Hillary...We'll only find out about impeachable offenses after she would have left office.
     
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    It's not a question of bad,or best : a bad candidate can be a good president,or the opposite . Besides,the function makes the man .
    Carter said,when he was a candidate (haha) :I will never lie to you : that made him not a good president, or a bad one .
    Clinton has no scruples,can not be trusted,but that makes her not a bad president .
    Was Ford a better president than Nixon ? He was good in falling from stairs,and maybe in other things also .

    Was saying "yes we can " a proof that one would be a good president ?

    The problem is that there is no definition of a good president, it depends on what one is expecting of him .

    Both,Trump/Clinton, are now acting as candidates,when they are president, they will act differently .
     
  19. Takao

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    What do you mean "maybe"...He fell into the Vice-Presidency and then fell into the Presidency - He never ran for, nor was elected to either.
     
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    That he never ran for president is irrelevant for the question if he was good as president :.To be elected as president /VP does not make someone a good president/not to be elected does not make some one a bad president .
     
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