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Discussion in 'The Stump' started by CAC, Dec 9, 2015.

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  1. Dave55

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    How many pancakes does it take to shingle a doghouse?
     
  2. Ben Dover

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    What if there was a young Muslim school girl in a school in England and her class were set to visit Washington D.C?
    Why should she miss out because she listens to her mother and her father and is probably proud to be a Muslim, why shouldn't she be allowed entry into Donald Trump's policy of this temporary ban on all Muslims?
    It'll be like denying her and millions like her an education.
    I know she's not protected by that First Amendment in the Constitution that guarantees religious freedoms that make the United States of America a place like the United States of America; Historically, a beacon for religious tolerance in the world.
     
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    His policy does not (and can not) affect those holding European passports. He's talking about Islamic nations requiring visas or the many new stateless people flooding Europe, not Europeans who can come over on a simple passport, Muslim or otherwise.

    Right now our Visa system is pretty much an automatic thing. You fill out some papers and two weeks later you get a Visa. About 1/3rd of our illegal immigrants come over on tourist, work, student visas and never leave. That needs to change. It is one of the few things I agree with Trump on.
     
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    That seems a whole lot more acceptable than a ban based on religion regardless of non American citizenship.
    I've filled out Visa Waiver's before, there is a section that asked me if i was a Nazi from WWII... Hopefully under Tump's America it won't ask
    'Do you have a faith?'
    If yes, what?
    'With a bunch of boxes to check including prefer not to answer'.

    If he wants to renegotiate America's foreign policy with other countries including my own that is part of the Visa Waiver program, if he wants to do that, I don't see the harm in that, it's America and not for anywhere else but for America to decide what it wants to do...
    It's just sounds rather anti Muslim calling for an all out ban.
     
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    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Why should you care who does or does not enter this country?
    I don't care enough about who enters yours to stick my nose into that discussion, were it to arise.
     
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    The BBC reports that Trumps Campaign Manager has been charged with Simple Battery. I suppose it would be too much to ask that it be Complex or Complicated Battery.
     
  7. Takao

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    I was think more along the lines of alkaline or lithium-ion.
     
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    Well, you're listening to the tabloid version, which is probably Trump's fault since he has a tabloid personality. However, if you go to his website it is pretty clear that none of this is directed at nations under the Visa waiver program, only at nations requiring a Visa. Nobody, even a clown like Trump, is going to ban a British Muslim from entering based on his faith. The temporary "ban" is more or less a kick in the teeth to Hillary's (now Kerry's) state department who can't or won't follow the basics law on vetting people applying for a Visa.
     
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    Interesting Trump view: if a woman has an abortion, she must be penalized in some way. Later on Trump corrects: the doctor must be penalized.
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2JpDCVbKjQ
    LOL...

    They said they couldn't ban him anyway, but voted despite.
     
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    If the BBC report it... Hmmm...
    Aren't the BBC bound by law due to the nature of their financing being public; aren't they bound by law to remain politically unbiased? - So therefore, anything this network has to report (which is banned from certain countries) is just the BBC reporting this as fact rather than being anti-Trump?

    Is Donald Trump a thug? - Surrounding himself by thugs and only inviting the like minded and ejecting the trouble makers? - rhetorical question.

    Countries like Iran, Zimbabwe, the BBC are banned from entering.
     
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    Ben not sure what you are on but could you send me some please.
     
  13. CAC

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    Kim Beazley...Australia's ambassador to the US (he's a bloke) says that if Trump gets in we will have to rewrite our defence white paper...that says a lot...
     
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    You think...

    But, c'mon...He'll be giving every one nukes!
     
  15. CAC

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    We can make our own thanks : )
     
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    Hillary Clinton is a hawk. If she becomes president (which I believe she will and I hope I'm wrong) the US will remain in continuous wars. She openly spoke of creating a no fly zone in Syria and shooting down Russian planes in the process. Can you imagine?!?

    Below is one of her emails. Amazing that such could be spoken off on an unsecured email.... I won't even go into the number of times she has flip-flopped on issues or just flat out lied.

    https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/18328

    People are tired of lying politicians. Trump may be many things but he's not a politician. People seem to gravitate to him for that as well.

    He may be many things, but IMO he's still better than Hillary but worse than Sanders ;)
     
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    Except Iran:they have got them from Obama .
     
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    Actually, it was a Republican...Dwight D. Eisenhower.

    Maybe you have heard of him.
     
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    Proof that Ike gave Iran nuckear weapons ?
     
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    Have you heard of Atoms for Peace?

    http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/up-front/posts/2013/12/18-sixty-years-atoms-peace-iran-nuclear-program-rowberry
    The Atoms for Peace program provided the foundations for Iran’s nuclear program by providing key nuclear technology and education. Iran’s nuclear program began under Mohamed Reza Shah’s rule in 1957, after the United States and Iran agreed to a civilian nuclear cooperation arrangement, known as the Cooperation Concerning Civil Uses of Atoms, through the Atoms for Peace program. Two years later, the Shah established the Tehran Nuclear Research Center (TNRC), located at the University of Tehran, and began to negotiate with the United States to provide Iran with nuclear technology and materials.
     
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