Donald J Trump

Unless you can prove that these peole were lying, it is a fact that Muslims were cheering after 9/11 .

 

The various local police have proved it didn't happen. All of the various news outlets, even FOX, have proved it didn't happen. In a day when cellphone cameras are everywhere - there are no photographs of it happening, nor is there any video of it happening. It has been proved over and over and over again that it never happened.

The only ones still persisting this rumor are Trump, and various anti-establiment/conspiracy theory and white supremacist web sites.

If it is all the same to you, I believe the police over some white supremacist.

 

No : you can't prove that something did not happen .Besides ,even the NYT was obliged to admit that Muslims were celebrating the attacks .

Muslims were cheering in Europe, they were cheering in the ME,thus,why should they not cheer in the US ?

The NYT (also known as the Journal of Allah) of 28 october 2001:

"Within hours of the terror attacs,FBI agents hurriedly intercepted telephone calls in which suspected associates of AQ in the US were overheard CELEBRATING the attacks............."

Muslims were celebrating the attacks . That's a fact .

 

LJAd...The argument is not about the fact that a few Muslims were celebrating...That has been proven...And it is not the matter at hand.

The argument is whether Darth Trump's claim that he personally witnessed "thousands and thousands" of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey is the Truth or a Lie, and it has been proven a bald-faced lie.
https://irfankhawajaphilosopher.wordpress.com/2015/11/23/yes-trump-is-lying/
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2015/11/trump_claim_of_muslims_celebrating_in_nj_on_911_is.html

So, yes you can prove that something did not happen.

 

It is not a lie ,because a lie is saying something of which one knows it is not right .

Muslims were cheering in New Jersey and in Brooklyn.Were there thousands of them ?,that is not proved . Did Trump see them cheering ? I believe him . Because there is no proof that he could not see them cheering . Unless on that day and hour he was in Florida or Alaska .

I have seen 2 statements :

one from Carmine Sabia who said that she lived in NJ and witnessed Muslims dancing,jumping and shouting .

the other from John Cardillo who said that he saw Muslims in Brooklyn cheering and mocking the NYPD and FD NY.

The source is Infowars from 24 november of this year .

 

Hillary and Co. are for criminals and thug culture--that is un-American culture....don't try to deny it.....after all these UN-American, anti-civilized, thug, criminal incidents that get national headline news, and not one government official speaks out for justice....they want votes and are fearful...they don't stand up for what is right...and that is, don't break the law and you won't have problems with the police--how SIMPLE can it be?? I don't see Hillary say ''don't break the law AND run from the police AND resist arrest''....Hillary and Co. go to their funerals and cry with the thugs' and criminals' families!! ...Hillary and Obama should say '' stop raising your kids to be criminals".....
how insane that government officials would not stand behind justice....we can't expect the thug culture to, because we look at statistics that undeniably show that they can't understand normal, decent civility
that would be like Reagan going to Charles Manson's funeral.....or Al Capone's.....or Dillinger's.....etc etc ....''poor Al, was just trying to better himself''......''poor Charles was just misunderstood"".......

 

??? Even for you this is an absurd statement. The inability to prove someone is lying doesn't in anyway make their claims a fact. Indeed even if you could prove they were lying it's possible that their underlying claim or portions of it could be correct. So as it stands any of the following could be true.
1) They are lying and the there were no thousands celebrating in the US.
2) They were mistaken and there were not thousands celebrating in the US.
3) They were lying in that they did not see the celebrations but there were still thousands celebrating in the US.
4) They were telling the truth.
The evidence however strongly suggest that 4 is false and almost as strong is the evidence suggesting 3 is false.

You really need to learn that:
1) Your opinions are not fact
2) Your concept of what is required to prove something is so badly flawed as to be useless.
3) If you are the proponent of an idea it is very strong evidence that the idea is at best badly flawed and in all probability completely false.

 

Let me go of-topic, in a positive manner.

One thing is certain: If Trump wins ellections, White House will get the sexiest Mrs. President ever - made in Slovenia:

 

Darth Trump knows it is not right...Therefore Darth Trump is lying.

How is it that Darth Trump saw "thousands and thousands" of cheering Muslims...Yet, the local Police forces have no records...Not one...of this happening? That is because is did not happen...Therefore Darth Trump is lying.

You idiot...Carmine Sabia is a He.
And apparently agoraphobic...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agoraphobia

As evidenced by one poster on his Facebook page.

He lists himself as a public figure, but I had never heard of him, but his FB page says he is an "outspoken Conservative political pundit and writer at BizPacReview.com" bizpacreview appears to be an ultra-conservative website...So I am sure Mr. Sabia Jr. is not unbiased in anyway on the matter. :roll:

John Cardillo. The same John Cardillo who is a writer for theblaze.com
http://www.theblaze.com/author/john-j-cardillo/

So...It seems that if you are an ultra-consrvative Republican writer for an internet website. Then you it appears saw something, which you could use to trash a favorite target...Despite the fact that few other saw it happen, and nowhere near the degree to which said ultra-conservative writer made it out to be.


That's two strikes against you LJAd...You gonna go for a third.

 

Trophy Wife #3.

 

Was she fully vetted?

 

Yes, she has one son by Darth Trump, but the question remains...by how many guys before she got hitched.

Oh, wait you said "vetted."

 

Thus,if one is a conservative Republican, one is not reliable ?

Nice : only Hillary is reliable ?

And about Trump : if someone is talking about thousands in a political debate,he means : a lot, because : thousands can be 2000 but also 999000.

And that there were no police reports means nothing : I saw cheering Muslims, but there was no police report .

And,as I expected, you avoid understandably the third source : the NYT : Muslims were cheering to each other over the phone, thus why should they not cheer in public ?

 

Trump is American Berlusconi: He has piles of money and loves pretty women. A wise guy.

Trump has excellent taste for women, or at least better taste than Clinton. Trump wouldn't let Monica Lewinski even clean his shoes, let alone anything more. If Trump gets caught with another woman alone in the Oval Office, she would be a stunner.

 

Your of in your fantasy world again aren't you...

See my Post#125
http://www.ww2f.com/topic/57076-donald-j-trump/page-5#entry636116

 

The far right (which would include many "conservative Republicans") like the far left tends not to be very reliable. They like you have a hard time separating their beliefs from facts.

Another straw man. No one said Hillary was reliable and certainly no one said she was the only one reliable.

Thousands is a bit more specific than "a lot" though. It means at the very least in excess of 2,000 and typically would be taken to mean 3,000 or more. If it was over 30,000 most would say tens of thousands although it could even include millions. The issue here though is there is nothing to support even hundreds.

But did you see them in the US? That after all is the issue. It's not only that there were no police reports but there is no photographic or video evidence to support the statement nor has anyone produced newspaper articles that I've seen supporting the statement. That certainly brings them to question.

The last is lacking a bit in coherency want to try again to state what you mean but be a bit clearer this time. Or better yet just give it up.

 

Now that I can agree with, and he knows to kick them to the curb when their looks start to fade.

 

Exactly Takao. He knows perfectly that every woman has her "Best before" and what to do when she gets too old for him. Ivana was a stunner then and look at her now at photo below.

My personal credo is: "More than 175 and less than 25". (SI units conversion: 175 is height in cm (5ft 9in) and 25 is age in years - universal unit)

 

You forget both men are media personalities...Are any Western media personalities reliable?
As I recall, you think they are not. You have shot down Brietbart, a well-known conservative media outlet, and called it an unreliable source.

I never once said that did I?

999,000 is hundreds of thousands...

He said "thousands and thousands", he means thousands and thousands...
But, in reality, there were about a dozen or so - young men or teenagers at that.

Trump. Is. Lying. That is an indisputable fact.

Deal with it.

Here in the United States...It does.

"Thousands and Thousands"?