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Discussion in 'The Stump' started by Tamino, Jan 14, 2017.

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  1. Takao

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    And here I thought you watched too much "You Can't Do That On Television."
     
  2. GRW

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    Right, home at last. Time to destroy this crap.

    BULLSHIT. You'll be telling me next it's complete coincidence that all of those countries have a majority Muslim population.
    Parliament is going to debate a petition demanding Trump's state visit to Britain be banned; apparently his TEMPORARY order to ban citizens of seven Muslim countries from the visiting the US for a 90 day period might "embarrass the Queen".
    Meanwhile, the morons who signed the petition are apparently quite happy for representatives of eleven of those countries- including three Commonwealth countries (Bangladesh, Brunei and Pakistan) - which have PERMANENT bans on citizens of Israel (a key British ally) from even entering them to have attended a function in London the other night. The clear implication being that somehow "won't" embarrass the Queen.
    That kind of rank hypocrisy is why folk voted for Brexit to annoy all the smug bien pensants, who suddenly don't look quite so smug.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4178392/Farage-accuses-London-Mayor-Sadiq-Khan-hypocrisy.html
     
  3. belasar

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    Careful, they run in packs!
     

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  4. Takao

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    Regretfully, you have not the slightest clue what you are talking about...

    When was this petition begun?
    "created_at":"2016-11-09T13:13:40.310Z"
    "open_at":"2016-11-29T16:32:44.442Z"
    When did Trump initiate his ban on the Muslim countries????

    Please point out to me where the Muslim ban is the reason for the petition...


    As I must have missed it...

    Can't wait to see Trump grabbing the Queen in her nether regions...It will give a new meaning to the "special relationship" between the US & UK.

    EDIT: Forgot to add. The petition can be found here: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928
     
  5. GRW

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    His "well documented misogyny and vulgarity" doesn't get mentioned much, either on social media or by pub bores, in preference to how much he's supposedly "insulted" Muslims..
    There's a brief mention of "misogyny" and a lot of angst here, but no vulgarity-
    "Theresa May lashed out at Jeremy Corbyn today after the Labour leader demanded she cancel Donald Trump's state visit.
    The Prime Minister delivered a vicious drubbing to the veteran left-winger for 'insulting' the democratically-elected leader of our closest ally.
    Amid bitter clashes at the weekly questions session in the Commons, she told Mr Corbyn: 'He can lead a protest, I'm leading a country.'
    The bitter clashes came during the weekly PMQs session in the House of Commons today
    The exchanges came amid a mounting backlash over the temporary travel ban imposed by Mr Trump on seven mainly-Muslim countries.
    Some 1.8 million people have signed a petition demanding that the invite for the US president to carry out a state visit this year - extended during Mrs May's visit to Washington last week - be withdrawn.
    There have also been calls for Mr Trump to be barred from addressing both Houses of Parliament if he does come.
    But ministers have dismissed the calls as overblown - and a YouGov poll today suggested that nearly half of the public thinks the visit should go ahead. The figure rose to 57 per cent if 'don't knows' were excluded.
    A clearly angry Mr Corbyn told the PM today that Mr Trump had discriminated against Muslims and backed torture.
    'He's threatened to dump international agreements on climate change. He's praised the use of torture. He's incited hatred against Muslims. He's directly attacked women's rights,' he said."
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4179838/May-lashes-Corbyn-PMQs-amid-row-Trump-s-travel-ban.html#ixzz4XUYw3YHt
     
  6. m kenny

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    Maybe his posts should come with the same caution that The Farage idiocy carries?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38833597
     
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    See the full article here and note the bits that did not get a mention by the hater. The people who think like him are a minority.

    Half (50%) of Britons believe the migrant ban signed by President Trump is a bad idea, whilst 29% think it is a good one. A further 20% don’t know.
    The data shows that should Theresa May adopt a similar ban in the UK, the reaction among British voters would be broadly similar. Almost half (49%) would be appalled or disappointed compared to just over a quarter (27%) who would be delighted or pleased.
     
  8. Takao

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    Hmm...I wonder what the Yanks want so much...
     
  10. GRW

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    Bet that was an interesting call.
     
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    The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online in English in all 50 states. It gathered poll responses from 1,201 people including 453 Democrats and 478 Republicans. It has a credibility interval, a measure of accuracy, of 3 percentage points for the entire sample and 5 percentage points for the Democrats and the Republicans.

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    Firstly there are significantly more nations wth muslim majorities. So that's not the issue.

    Secondly, it was you that brought Israel into the debate.

    Thirdly, with an eye to the intention to make USA safer; how many Iranians have been involved in terror attacks in the US and Europe in the last 15 years? Not including Kim Kardashian. Just wondering. How many Saudis were directly involved in 9/11 alone? But ARAMCO, etc.

    So as pro-Trump as I am I find this travel ban mildly irritating, as it is affecting colleagues and friends, even if I am not directly affected.


    Brexit. Its happening. Some of us wanted it to happen. Get over it. Get on with it already.
     
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    How many of those have banned Israelis from entering?
    My point stands; why are people whingeing about Trump temporarily banning Muslims from certain countries when over a dozen Muslim countries have banned Israelis? No-one's calling them racist.
     
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    Well for starters, the whole arab league.

    Many of which have had their nationals involved in acts of terrorism, yet these nations remain off the travel ban.

    Further I think many people do acknowledge the racist policies of these nations. However protesting is pointless, and their (mis)behaviour is noted (Malaysia, for example).

    Israel itself lists 25 nations for which any citizen thereof must acquire specific Israeli 'government approval' before they will grant a tourist visa.

    So Israel is capable of handling its own issues.

    Many people may feel that the US has stood for something else. An ability to see beyond the categorisation of people, and acknowledge the individual.

    The 'whingeing' on my part is because it is illogical to ban Iranians on the basis of 'safety'. Its just political.
     
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    The fact that it was "conducted online" brings to question the scientific nature of the study. Just how the poll was conducted could have considerable impact on this. The fact that it doesn't address independents is of some import as well. Are they included in the totals or not?
     
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    The questions basically were - are you with Trump or against him. Party affiliation was of secondary importance. The measure of accuracy was 5 percentage points anyway, so both independents nicely fit inside, if I'm not mistaken.
     
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    Fake news:
    Senior US officials told the Washington Post that Donald Trump abruptly hung up on Mr Turnbull after just 25 minutes - when the pair were meant to speak for an hour.
    But an indignant Mr Turnbull returned serve, telling 2GB's Ben Fordham: 'As far as the call is concerned, I’m very disappointed, the report the president hung up is not correct, the call ended courteously.'
     
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    Seriously? That's your concern? Whether the call ended abruptly, or with endearments? Interesting....
     
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    Trump's not much of a diplomat is he? One can understand the frustration of being pushed to accept a deal negotiated by your predecessor. I mean, why doesn't Australia accept those refugees? How did we get involved in an internal Australian matter?

    Still, it's his job so say "No" in a polite way when you're dealing with an old and trusted ally.
     
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    Abruptly is stupid and boorish, endearments and heated discussions are acceptable...
     
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