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Discussion in 'The Stump' started by Tamino, Jan 14, 2017.

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  1. Sloniksp

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    Eh. Russia has been making civilian nuke plants for quite a while... Countries want them for a reason.

    The plant taken from Germany wasn't complete easier to do when it's in its infancy. Russian plants need Russian supplies/parts etc.
     
  2. belasar

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    You should take a look at some of my posts before the election, I stated I could not vote for him and in fact did not vote for him.
     
  3. freebird

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    Insulting John McCain I think he meant
     
  4. CAC

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    If you don't vote, you cant complain...The Women whos acting is so wooden shes been found to be a new kind of tree...Nicole Kidman...is taking some heat at the moment for saying America should back Trump (she has since said she doesn't like the man but he is NOW the US president)...it would be prudent to back him and empower him as much as possible.
    Just for the record she was born in Hawaii (to Australian parents) and lives in the states and has dual citizenship.
     
  5. KJ Jr

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    That's what you got out of that post?
     
  6. KJ Jr

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    I despise the man, but as an American who cares about the country and it's future I have to support success. I have trouble looking my kids in the eye but this is the political system we have. I am just glad we have a democratic state system, lol.
     
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    I voted, just not for either of these crooks. I'm 74 and have voted since I was 21--never by party, but for the candidate I thought would do the best job for the country. Sadly, I just wasn't given a choice this time with either one, so I wrote in who I thought would.
    Besides, I wasn't talking politics, I was talking common human decency. The guy is a bottom feeder.
     
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  8. Ben Dover

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    I like Trump's foreign policies.

    Did you know that Donald J. Trump supports Brexit?
    Is saying he'd enter a trade deal with UK first and doesn't believe in a federalised EU or the ECB (European Central Bank)?
    He's also a smart man addressing the China issue, an issue I admit is too real but in my own weakness, surmised that there was nothing that can be done in regards to China, and to cut all trade with them, have an collation trade embargo on PRC (People's Republic of China) wouldn't be humane since it'll let a billion people starve; Donald Trump's ideas of high import tax to make China and Mexico less lucrative addressing concerns over cheap/slave labour and currency manipulation.

    Simply put, if they need cheap labour, f' 'em! They're not going to be cheaper than making it in the US. US has better pay and working conditions too. If cost of production goes up in China and Mexico and all across the developing world to pay more, treat people producing fairer and stop polluting as much, then a high import tax wouldn't be needed to stop greedy capitalists taking advantage and feeding this slave market while moving jobs from their own backyard in the process. Making whatever developing nations sell cost more just makes it cheaper to build in your own backyard which also helps jobs in your own backyard which helps the people from your own backyard and stops talking to a bully being a bully in some sweatshop exploiting kids.
     
  9. LRusso216

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    My sentiments exactly. Trump is misogynistic and a sexual predator. I cringe when I read some of his tweets (he has yet to make a full-blown speech). Corruption is his stock in trade. I hope I'm wrong, but I am afraid of the next four years (or however long he is in power before impeachment).
     
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    Russian reactors used to be significantly cheaper than Western counterparts and - although the gap is closing - they still are. That's all I'll say here.
     
  11. Takao

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    Yes, because Russia is willing to loan these countries billions so they can purchase the reactors.

    ????

    The German plant and the VVER-1000 V-320 are both 2nd generation nuclear reactors.
     
  12. Takao

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    It would be prudent, that is true. However, I see this as a product of the Campaigns that Trump and Clinton ran, as this level of post-election fallout was not seen in the Bush II/Gore aftermath. Trump ran a very divisive campaign, and the Clinton campaign treated her as a shoe-in to win.
     
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    This from our Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull...

    "Its a very momentous event, the change of administration in the United States..."
    "I just want to say that we wish him well, we wish America well - it's important for the whole world that America succeeds..."
    "As a firm friend and staunch ally of the United States, we look to a strong American government, strong administration, led by President Trump, with a strong continued commitment for the maintenance of the rule of law and order in our region..."

    The inauguration will be attended by our ambassador Joe Hockey.
     
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    Most naive people do.


    WTF are you talking about? Apparently you do not know the difference between a "trade war" and a "trade embargo." No one, and I mean no one - Not even Der Furor - is talking about a trade embargo against China...

    So let's see Donald raises his protectionist tariffs against Mexico & China, as a result, the costs of their goods go up. They respond in kind, and the costs of our goods go up. Unfortunately, Mexico and China are the US's #2 & #3 in purchasing US goods - So, essentially, 25% of the US export business dries up. Now that the US has lost 25% of it export business, how is it going to make this loss of $362.5 Billion Dollars? Is Britain going to step up it's US imports...Yeah, right. The answer is that the US will be unable to make up this loss...Factories will close, businesses will go belly up, and US citizens will lose their jobs. While at the same time, they will be paying higher prices for "Made in the USA" products at a time that the can least afford them. Which will further complicate matters, by lowering US domestic consumption of goods. So, even more Factories will close, businesses will go belly up, and US citizens will lose their jobs.

    not exactly a pretty corner that Trump is painting us into.


    Unfortunately, you are F-ing yourself and F-ing all those who work for foreign companies in the developing world...

    Who is going to make up for the loss of exports?
    What are all those workers in developing countries going to do for jobs, not that you have made the unemployed? How are they going to pay bills, buy food, etc.?
    What will happen to the domestic markets of those developing countries with all of those workers now newly unemployed?
    With all of that foreign capital gone, you think those developing countries will be able to afford to continue developing?

    Seems that there is going to be a lot of suffering from following your view.
     
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    How are people in the developed world going to pay bills if their job gets moved away to a developing nation and taken by somebody who'd work for far less?
    What about all those people out of work in the developed world?
    F' the slavery F' the sweatshops and F' the practises that deem them more cost effective.
    What is the point of having labour laws if the bosses are going to move to the developing world?
    Nobody but me said embargo on PRC, but now Trump is saying high import tax on PRC and Mexico.

    Sounds fair to me.

    Why not open these factories in England?
    Why feed China? China doesn't care about human rights or labour laws or the environment; and people who use Chinese factories only care about maximising profit, a profit that a high import tax should eat away at.
     
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  18. Mutley

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    Where does it say we are first in the queue? Even with hard Brexit, it will take at least two years to wrap it all up. We legally cannot negotiate with any country until a have exited and by that time Trump's going to be a good two years into his presidency.

    Trumps family have had no shame at all exploiting cheap labour in China either. Is his daughter going to move her business to the US? https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-12-02/ivanka-trump-s-china-sewn-line-turns-profit-at-a-political-cost
     
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    It says it here
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/09/boris-johnson-holds-warm-and-frank-talks-with-trump-aides
    time for a speedy Brexit so the EU can't stop it.
    https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2016/06/29/fact-if-the-uk-doesnt-have-a-signed-deal-by-april-2017-brexit-is-in-grave-danger/

    Maybe she should pull out of China.

    Merkel is upset, People Republic of China are angry over Taiwan, yay. Mexican factories selling to the US are now a corporate negative, what is so wrong with Trump's foreign policies? London is having more leverage in exiting the EU too with these talks of post EU trade deals for GB.
    So far so good.
     
  20. Mutley

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    Your article quotes Boris saying we are first in line Ben. Please give me link where I can see Trump actually saying we are first in the queue. Boris has proven not an honest man at best.

    Some on Trump's team seem to believe Brexit is an ideal opportunity to shaft us http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/donald-trump-s-trade-chief-brexit-god-given-right-eu-a7495906.html
     
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