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Donald John Trump

Discussion in 'The Stump' started by Tamino, Jan 14, 2017.

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  1. denny

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    Yeah.......if you hate Democracy. Hitler also Won The Election. What would have happened if people had not, as You say, gotten over themselves and spoken up.?
    Protest and Dissent are the right of a democratic society.
    The time to resist Fascism is when (Friday) it rears its ugly head, not four years after the fact.
    If YOU do not like that.....fine. That is YOUR right IMO.
    good luck
     
  2. Brian Smith

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    No I question those who cannot accept the outcome of free votes in a democracy. You compare the US Presidential election, Brexit and Scots voting on UK membership with Hitler and Fascism, now I know the world has gone mad.

    And not wanting to start another debate but how long did it take the US before they finally decided to resist Hitler and Fascism.
     
  3. KJ Jr

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    The volatile nature of this election cycle was terrible. It was polarizing and not in the good way. This one is going to take awhile to swallow. Not many (unless they are lying :)) thought that Trump could pull this off. People are shocked that this pig of a man who denigrated every human on the planet is becoming the leader of the free world.

    Come on, you can literally see the wave of animosity the next 4 years will become. The man just tweeted a comparison between him and Holocaust survivors. This is not a typical human being who will sit in the oval office.

    Is this really the change we want. This shit storm, and everyone, regardless of political leanings, is concerned what this ass will do. I just hope he doesn't blow up the earth. I sure as hell hope he tones it down and acts like an adult and his election politicking was an act. I don't think it is.

    (My apologies for the obscenities;))
     
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  4. Takao

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    Correction, The Electoral College, not the electorate, gave the Presidency to Trump.



    Respect is earned and not given...But, the voters did vote...for both sides, winner and loser, and for that, they have my respect...and there my respect ends.


    Our President-Elect does not respect the Electoral College...Or did you not know that.

    From his 2012 Twitter feed...
    “He [Obama] lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. We should have a revolution in this country!” (Nov. 6)

    “The phoney [sic] electoral college made a laughing stock out of our nation. The loser one!” (Nov. 6)

    “More votes equals a loss…revolution!” (Nov. 7)

    "We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!" (Nov. 7)

    "Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us." (Nov. 7)

    "This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy!" (Nov. 7)

    "The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy." (Nov. 7)

    So, if Trump does not respect the system, when his side loses...Why should the rest of us.


    Not officially, but he has been doing his "Hashtag Diplomacy" for a few weeks now.
     
  5. Takao

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    I'll go you one better...
    [​IMG]


    Of course the World is mad...Trump is in the White House, and the British think they can go it alone.
     
  6. Mutley

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    Correction Takao, the English & Welsh want to go it alone. The majority of Scots that got off their backsides to vote, voted to stay in the EU, as did those in Northern Ireland. Please don't tar us all with the same brush ha ha.

    But every cloud has a silver lining. Looks like Scotlands population is about to rise according to this article. Roll on Independence Referendum II.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-people-move-scotland-theresa-may-brexit-speech-leave-eu-single-market-european-union-a7531921.html
     
  7. GRW

    GRW Pillboxologist WW2|ORG Editor

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    No, that's what a minority of SNP mouthpieces want. The rest of us'll fight it tooth & nail.
     
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    No idea what school you went to, but 62% of a 67% turnout isn't the same as 62% of a 100% turnout. It actually works out around 41.5% of everyone who was entitled to vote.
    I can only assume that article was written by a twelve year old.
     
  9. Poppy

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    Read maybe there are employment ads for being a professional disruptor at upcoming events.
    Surely, government agencies will be on top of it.
    And who, would fund anyone to conspire against law and order...(last name- soros).
     
  10. USMCPrice

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    Actually, Clinton carried California by 4,269,978 votes. The difference in the certified national popular vote was 2,854,974.

    So subtracting California would have given Trump a 1,415,004 margin over Clinton in the popular vote. I do not know why it is relevant because last time I checked California was part of the United States. So I agree with you that the statistic would be irrelevant.

    Actually neither side has the moral high ground here, both ran divisive campaigns, though Clinton's was more subtle. I see so much hypocrisy, especially in the main stream media.
     
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  11. Kai-Petri

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    Don´t make too long a wall or you can start asking whose behind the wall,truly... :( it should start on Friday,right?
     
  12. Takao

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    Yes, on Friday, the ladder business in Mexico will be booming...Wish I had invested.
     
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    Still time to invest in the spade/shovel industry...im sure this will simply make those cartels smuggling people all the more powerful and can charge even more...
     
  14. Takao

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    Ohhh...I hadn't thought of that industry
    [​IMG]

    Especially, since I don't think that Der Furor thought that the wall needed to extend underground.
     
  15. Takao

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    Walls...I wonder if Trump ever heard of that boondoggle called the McNamara Line? Doubt it.
     
  16. lwd

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    A youtube video is your source????
     
  17. lwd

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    Well Hitler didn't really win any elections personally anyway.

    Trump on the other hand has both said and done some rather reprehensible things and holding him to account is important, IMO even more so now that he is to be president.
     
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    Some would argue, with some justification, that my point was about semantics. Neither Clinton nor Trump got a majority of votes in the election. Take away the California vote and that is still the case. However the candidate gaining the plurality does change.

    If I were asked to name the three worst candidates for President of the US nominated by the major parties I'm not sure who the third person on the list would be without a bit of research the other two were both in the 2016 election.
     
  19. freebird

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    David Duke?
     
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  20. lwd

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    He didn't get the nomination otherwise he'd certainly be one of the three.

    In regards to the topic here's an article on some recent polls:
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-low-approval-rating-transition-233678
    Contrary to what of the Trump supports implies I think the press actually went rather easy on Trump. There were a lot of issue that either didn't get reported or mentioned briefly in passing.
     
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