Favortie Tank of WWII?

My favorite's the Panther. It edges out the two Tigers because it was more widely available and less of a pain to transport by rail. Plus, it looks cooler! Massive like the other two without being too massive as the King Tiger was, and it's sleek and sexier-looking than the rather fat and dumpy-looking Tiger I.

Yours,
Paul

 

Panzer IV J. The long barrel, the side skirts.. its damn sexy.

 

No accounting for tastes when it comes to sexiness, eh, Fenrir? Good grief, tanks are a lot like women!

Yours,
Paul

 

Paul we seem to be having this discussion quite alot latley You know my stance on the Pz IV J vs panther

 

best tank of WWII is the Panter, which one? hmm to hard to decide, probably the early ones because their tranny's were built for the wieght but when the germans added a couple extra TONS the trannys couldnt handle it, almost all of our tanks sucked except...the m26 pershing tank destroyer, all the others had cannons with WAAAY to low of muzzle velocity, and the 88mm's and the 75mm of the panther (which has a muzzle velocity of a 90mm) could go through ANY ALLIED ARMOR ALL THE WAY UP TO THE JOSEPH STALINS with their 200+mm of frontal armor, also the JS's took WAY to long to reload! stupid Russians. but my WWII reenacting unit is reciving a Sherman and a Priest mobile artillery piece some time in this next year, if you want to know more about WWII Reenacting contact me

 

duce, we have plenty of reenactors in here and a special forum section for this: "Living history".

 

Welcome aboard, 5-0-Duce! Hope you enjoy yourself in here along all the reinactors...

Just don't say stupid Russians, since even the low rate of fire of the IS-II it could scare the German Panzer crews in the east and make them shiver...

 

Slow reload is one aspect, but if the first shot has a good chance to be deadly, and the tank can hardly be destroyed while reloading, it is still a heck of a threat. The Germans shivered for very good reasons.

 

Of all the various models of the Panther, I'd have to go with the A as possibly the best version overall. It had most of the bugs ironed out and wasn't built under quite the same desperate circumstances as the G. I'm thinking that the G was turned out under extremely trying conditions for the factories--especially with a lot more forced labor being used in their manufacture (and thus a greater likelihood of sabotage). So, taking that into account, and also the sad history of the "Kursk model", the D (which had so many bugs you needed an exterminator to get them out), I would say the A was the best model Panther, with better workmanship and possibly better materials than the other two.

Just my two pfennigs.

Yours,
Paul

 

lets not forget how long it took the JS tanks to reload though! how do you NOT destroy something when it's idle for almost 2 min! i could stick a magnetic mine to it in that time

 

Like I said in another string, Duce, the one thing that just infuriates me about the Stalin is that measly ammo load of 28 rounds. Ridiculous!

Yours,
Paul

 

Still it was a VERY good tank!

And many German veterans still speak of how dreaded it was.

It looks SCARY!

 

ahh yes scary but truthfully i'm more scared of a tiger or panther than a JS.. good points all

 

Friedrich, it just looks like another fat, juicy target for my trusty 7.5cm KwK 42!

Actually, I don't fear it, but I respect it. It's a tough opponent, but it's not invulnerable (neither am I in my Panther, for that matter ...).

Yours,
Paul

 

I'll stick with my Königstiger for 1945. The IS 2 was crap

 

Where did you get 2 minutes for a reload time? Yes, the IS-2 used seperate ammunition, but a realistic reload time is more like 10 seconds which is a long time by then current standards. The IS-2 reload time is similar to that of the JadgTiger.

 

where are you getting 10 seconds from!? i COULD see maybe a 30 sec reload time, i was exagerating when i said 2 min it took a "good crew" about a min, i mean Christ that's a lot of work to be done, and that's a big piece of lead that they had to shove in there! German tanks reloaded in 6-9 seconds, the stalins had to place the projectile in, then the charges, much like a cannon on a ship, and i have YET to see a ships cannons reload in 10 seconds! ... WAIT what JS u talking about? i'm refering to the JS-2 with its 122mm gun. not the JS-1 with the 85, cause yea that could EASILY be reloaded in 10seconds or less

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http://www.battlefield.ru/is2_3.html

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Quarters/4635/tanks/is/is_serie.htm

http://afvinteriors.hobbyvista.com/is2/is2.html

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http://www.angelfire.com/ct/ww2europe/sovietarmor.html

Actually the100mm gun was better at knocking out tanks, but the Soviets already had a great superiority in numbers of tanks, so it was decided that there was no need to opt for the 100mm gun’s anti-tank capabilities at the expense of losing anti-personnel performance. Even without its armament, the IS-2 was a valuable asset on the battlefield because it was extremely maneuverable and had a tiny silhouette considering its size, and its armor was incredibly thick and well sloped.

The IS-2 always had a slow rate of fire, something that mattered far less when large numbers of tanks were available, but the IS-2 also did not carry that many 122mm shells, which could spell disaster in a prolonged battle. Its “fatal” flaw was that for all its thick armor, the mantlet was extremely susceptible to high velocity armor-piercing rounds. Soon after this was discovered, German tank crews and anti-tank crews began to specifically target this area using special AP40 shells with tungsten cores that were nicknamed “arrowheads.” Aside from this, the IS-2 was nearly impossible to kill and most of its design kinks were worked out by mid 1944 with the introduction of the IS-2M, of which some 1500 were produced between 1944 and 1945. This was the last version of the IS-2 and featured a 12.7mm heavy machine gun on the commander’s cupola, three 7.62mm machine guns (including a remote-fired bow mounted gun), even greater sloped armor, and a 520HP 12 cylinder V-2 IS engine.

 

Kai, the statement impossible to kill is not correct. Helmuth Reichert and his squad knocked them out in East Prussia with Panzerfausts.

sorry friend, you just need to know where the tank is the weakest. Anywhere from the side

~E

 

Jagdtiger it wasn't surpassed till the 1960's.