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Discussion in 'The Members Lounge' started by Canadian_Super_Patriot, Jul 26, 2005.

  1. cheeky_monkey

    cheeky_monkey New Member

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    not so indentical twins can have different placentas, often an egg will split into two before implantaion into the womb has taken place..if this happens then both babies will have a seperate placenta.

    i did quite of lot of reading about pregnancies. being a father of the three children myself so i know for fact that identical twins CAN have seperate placentas (granted it is not the norm) but it does happen.
     
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    the case of indentical twins being both hetrosexual and homosexual also says to me it cant be upbringing either..both have the same backrounds same families and are brought up the same in the same environment!
     
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    Both they will have different friends, different experiences...
     
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    never knew that the egg could split pre emplantment. However it would still receive the same blood from the mother so there would be no difference.

    I have two kids and a further set of identical twins on the way :( so I have done a little research into the matter. Such as GOD, WHY ME YOU GIT?

    FNG
     
  5. David.W

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    Obviously because you are a loving parent (& your wife) and you will be able to cope with it, despite what you might think to the contrary. :)
     
  6. Canadian_Super_Patriot

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    I don't like conservatives who say gay people can't raise children because their not fit , I think this should be judged on character and responsibilty rather than sexual preferences, and as far as I've seen children who were raised by gay parents turn out better than those raised by striaght parents , another thing %60 of straight marriages in my country end in divorce .
     
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    I think the point is made mostly because the theory is that kids benefit more from having the more 'normal' male / female parents.

    As to the high divorce rate these days, that is a whole new question... ;)

    Interestingly, studies undertaken for the British government indicate that kids from homes that have married parents (or at least together since the kids birth parents) tend to be higher achievers & less prone to getting to know their local law enforcement officers.
    I cannot site the study, I only know this because my dad knows the guy who did the research for the study. :oops:
     
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    and your experience is what exactly? are you a parent yourself? you know lots of children with gay parents? you interact with lots of families?

    i personally have 3 young children am in my mid 30s ive never met anyone who was raised by gay parents or do i know any that are being now...the issue of gay parents is a fairly recent phenomenoen i would wager there were few if any pre early 1990s making their children 12 at best.

    to make such a statement is ridiculous and somewhat offensive.
     
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    by the way maybe this will interest you

    Frederick and Hamel (1998) cautiously estimate that "almost one in every three Canadian couples (31%) who married in 1991 will eventually split up if the 1991 divorce rates prevail".

    All in all, divorce rates peaked in 1987 and have since stabilized at a lower level.

    seems a little bit lower than 60%!
     
  10. Canadian_Super_Patriot

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    this 2005 cheeky_monkey , it's also escalating a lot too , and yes I have seen gay couples raise children , they give them love, services(medical,dental,etc) and they generallly try to teach their kids to be tolerant because of their own experiences.
     
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    what and hetrosexual parents dont give their children love and welfare and dont teach them tolerance?

    that report i quoted was form 2004 saying that canadain divorce rates peaked in 1987 and fell constistenly through until the mid 1990s where they have stablised at around 30-32% since.
     
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    First of all its the gay peoples desision to get married to th same sex its not your dam desision .Hell its America .O and Bush is a Moron and should be removed from office .we should just remove him now because later in his term he is going to [mess] the government up ........Wait isnt he doing that now .ok religion should be not that close to state .O and if you ask me rebilicans are hipocrits
     
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    yep gays and lesbians should be allowed to marrie because its not ok that a bitch like britney spears gets drunk in a night and marries aND THE NEXT DAY THEY she is DIVORCE AGAIN .
    And two mens or wemen who love each other since decades and take care of each other are not allowed thats not fair.
     
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    :D :D :D :D :D


    Yep, i hate britney spaers too.
     
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    Shes letting herself go too.......
     
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    Personally, I don't understand the Repulicans in office who believe the gov't should not allow gay couples to marry. Isn't it the Repulicans who always advocate for the government to stay out of the peoples business?

    Then there are the dissenters who believe gay marriage is wrong because the Bible says so. The Bible says alot of things doesn't it?

    I lived in North Dakota for a while last year and when the gay marriage amendment passed (which meant a no to gay marriage) I was so disappointed in the state. I thought so highly of the state's adaptability and tolerance but now I don't know. :-?
     
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    Where in the bible does it say gay marriage is wrong ? , and isn't the debate over civil unions.
     
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    It does not specifically state that gay marriage is wrong, it simply states:

    Leviticus 18 v 22
    Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

    Leviticus 20 v 13
    If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable.

    However, you don't marry to stay celibate...
     
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    It doesn't. Not is as many words.

    What it does do; is condemn homosexualaity as a sin.
    And it describes "marriage" as being between a man & a woman.
    So it's sort of put two & two together to make four.
     
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    I agree with this bit. Having a facility that allows random strangers to wander in & get married is frankly irresponsible, and makes a mockery of marriage.
     

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