Gay marriage

God didn't tell the words of the bible neither did jesus , a person wrote without the guidance of jesus or god , and it's mostly fiction.

 

And you know this to be fact, right?

I take it that you have spent many years in seminary, studying the original Greek, Hebrew & Arameic texts. I must confess to being terribly impressed.

Perhaps you would care to enlighten us with some of your other "pearls of wisdom"



(Mods; Sorry, I just couldn't help myself )

 

Um, yeah, I think this is one of those things you should probably keep to yourself. You can make yourself alot of enemies saying stuff like this. I can respect your stance but labeling a religion to be mostly fiction is not going to work for most of the world.

 

I agree with what Ricky and David said.

Zhukov's last post is right on too.

 

Im not labelling the religion as fiction , im saying that the bible is just a book that's meaning well , and things can be interpreted in more than one way.

 

Well, in theory nope.
In practce, sadly, yes.

 

How can it be sin to be attracted to the same gender ? , I have a theory if anyones interested , here it goes... , The catholic church is powerful because there are a lot of people who are catholic because of high birth rates before the during the baby boom , and all the catholic parents who had a lot of kids , the kids grew up to be cathoilc and that's more money and more people worshipping the church , but because gay men can't reproduce , there isn't as much money going into the church , I also suspect this is why there against condems and birth control drugs.

 

It dosen't specifically say that does it ? I think people are aginst gay marriage because theres a misunderstanding concerning a verse in the bible, that Ricky has provided ,

 

But the Catholic Church was much more powerful before WW2. They encouraged large families because they noticed that their numbers were decreasing. And that is, indeed, all completely selfish.

Zhukov: I understand that many people will be insulted if someone calls their religion fiction, but this is no distortion of the truth for the sake of insulting religious people. It is the truth; religion is fiction. If nobody is allowed to say this anymore then back down we go into the mindless acceptance of what "the guy in the skirt" says is true, like back in the Middle Ages. There are various degrees of distancing oneself from the "party line" of the church, but all these degrees should be allowed.

About this specific bible quote: so the bible says homosexuality is detestable, and that's what this is all about? Come on! Many books have declared many things detestable. Why does this mean every Christian must suddenly be homophobic?

 

Roel it dosen't even say it's wrong !!!!!! , it also says sleeping with a woman is wrong !!! , homosexuality has been around since humans existed and I think the whole thing is a mis-understanding.

 

Except the Old Testament was written a couple of thousand years before the Catholic Church existed... :roll:

Ok - prove that it is the truth!
You can say that in your opinion it is a truth, but you cannot declare it an absolute truth.
(Yes, I know that this will work both ways!)

If somebody becomes a Christian, they should live by the rules. Not necessarily the rules of the Church (The Institution) as some of them are simply odd, or wrong (compared to what is in the Bible), but the church - God's people etc.

Thank you!
The Bible also says hate the sin but love the sinner, which many people ignore...

 

It is my opinion that in people's choices in life, something they know for a fact must take precedence over something they can't be sure of; something that is very real in their lives must be more important than something they think is real. Only if you accept the truth of what you start out with, will you ever be able to get anywhere. Hence, if you know you're gay and in love with another person of the same sex, but your religion tells you it is wrong, then you should ignore the religious rule. You will never know if what your religion says is true, but I assume you will be perfectly aware of homosexual feelings being true if you get them.

 

It all depends on what is more important to the individual. For some their religion or culture is more important to them than their sexuality.

 

Actually a lot of religous figures these days are saying that homosexualality is all right , and the bible isn't perfect , the person/s who wrote tried to make a guide to life the best they could, and again it's not perfect , but a lot of it is right(love thy neighbor,help those less fortunate,etc)