GB EU Refferendum June 2016 - Should the GB stay or exit the European Union? BRexit

The National only came into circulation after the Sept 14 referendum when that newsgroup saw a market potential. Prior to the referendum the Herald and Sunday Herald didn't come out in favour of independence and its owner's are not in favour of independence. The Herald only seems to have come round post Brexit, when they ran that poll of 40,000 odd folk showing an 80%+ in favour of independence.

You're right, I don't get out much. Too knackered normally with running the company from home including the lab work, admin, phones, books, keeping house and looking after our disabled son who usually wakes 2-3 times per night, like tonight! He can't walk very far and we have to carry out physiotherapy on him constantly and his autism means he usually goes into sensory overload when we've tried going out in the past. So yes, I don't go out much, but that doesn't mean I'm not keeping abreast of what's going on in the world.

You should pick up a National by the way, I think you would enjoy the scathing attacks on the SNP in the readers letters/emails.

 

Let's have a short break, without politics.

The first time I have heard about Johnson was from the BBC series »Who do You Think You Are«. I still recall I have watched that episode together with my daughter. That was probably one of the most exciting episodes - below you may see the most amusing passage where Boris finds out that his great, great, great, great, grandfather was actually prince Paul von Würtenberg. As the matter of fact, he is a distant relative of Queen Elisabeth too.

You will see, Johnson can be quite amusing chap.

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dozUkeDXXgw[/media]

 

The Herald has been an SNP paper for years, it hasn't had a sudden conversion.
Read The National, since at least two local pubs stock it for customers to peruse over a pint, along with other papers.
Personally I thought toilet roll would have been cheaper and more interesting, but hey....

 

Yeah, that's a good programme. Can get some really interesting people on it.

 

Indeed, amazing series. I loved that stuff and I have seen probably all of the series. You wouldn't believe, but from my early childhood I was a Britophile, extremely interested in everything "Englisch".

 

Good lad.

 

... what I really wanted to say you cannot be dissapointed by something you really don't care for. It is the opposite.

 

Scientists now being denied grants. Another adverse consequence of the vote to leave.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36835566

 

Trust the BBC to print an entire article based on purely anecdotal evidence. There's not a single hard, provable FACT anywhere in it.
There's a whole SEVEN people quoted there. Following what passes for logic among supposedly educated people in this country, that's a clear majority in favour of another referendum!!!
Not a single document. Not a single quote from anyone actually involved in deciding where funding goes. Just the usual whingeing from a bunch of whingers with a sense of entitlement. All EU membership seems to have done is turn large sections of the community into benefits junkies looking for handouts.
You can always rely on the middle classes to make a drama out of nothing.

 

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23030764-600-brexit-british-science-bad/

 

A seven week old propaganda article. I particularly liked this bit-
"It’s less about the money, which “only” funds 17 per cent of science contracts in universities and about 5 per cent of the total UK research landscape."
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23030764-600-brexit-british-science-bad/

So we're facing Armageddon because we might lose 5% of research funding?! Then again, we might not.

 

Lack of collaboration or possibly loosing some of our top class scientists worries me.

I am entitled to look at life from a different perceptive to yours Historian and I didn't see the question about the quashing of free thinking or speech if it was a Leave vote on the ballot form in June.

 

Nor did I see any mention of Scotland on the referendum ballot paper...it said-
"Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?"
https://www.eureferendum.gov.uk/q-and-a/

 

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5ec21720-49c1-11e6-8d68-72e9211e86ab.html#axzz4ExoKgWu1

 

Can't see it mate, since the FT is subscription only.

 

And here we can see why Sturgeon is so desperate to hold on to EU handouts-
"Nicola Sturgeon was dealt yet another blow for her ailing campaign for independence today as it was revealed the country’s production sector contracted by a huge 1.2 per cent.

Construction output also shrank by 1.5 cent, according to Scotland’s Chief Statistician.

The services sector, which accounts for a whopping three quarters of the Scottish economy, grew by just 0.4 per cent - taking overall growth to zero.

Compared to same period a year before, Scotland's economy grew by just 0.6 per cent - compared to booming growth of two per cent in Britain.

The figures raise fears Scotland could face an economic crisis if it goes it alone.

Graeme Roy, director of the Fraser of Allander Institute at the University of Strathclyde,told the BBC: "While the all-important services sectors grew, there was a sharp fall in production and construction.

"Of greatest concern was the fall in manufacturing, which was down 2.6 per cent over the three months and 5.4 per cent over the year.

"This was the sharpest fall in annual manufacturing output since the 2008/09 financial crisis.

"On the plus side, revisions to the data paint a rosier picture of growth last year. The Scottish economy is now estimated to have grown in each and every quarter of 2015, with growth of 1.4% in 2015 up from the previous estimate of just +0.9 per cent.

"Despite that, Scotland continued to lag behind the UK as a whole."
http://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/691473/Scotland-economy-GDP-figures-country-CAN-T-survive-independently

The SNP have been in charge for almost a decade now.

 

This is for the Historian who was awake at 3.am

 

Interesting article GS in the FT. Thought provoking. I wonder which option it will be in the end.

Historian, with unemployment falling by 18,000 the economic figure is a "mixed bag". I also note the figures are for the first three months of the year, no surprise figures are sluggish, especially with the weather conditions we had. I also wouldn't wipe my arse with the Daily Express either. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-36844614

Here you are, a solution on how to get rid of the Remainers by UKIP councillor, Terry Nathan, just shoot them lol http://www.kentnews.co.uk/news/ukip_councillor_time_to_start_killing_remain_voters_1_4624342

Like the picture Skipper. Did you see that awful false story going round that Rowan had committed suicide?

 

No , I didn't hear about the Rowan hoax. I'll check it out

 

Ah, the good old newspaper snobbery angle. One must only read the "correct" newspaper...like a good sheep.
Lost count of the number of times I've had this particular discussion in this forum over the years; still waiting on someone providing me with a list of "approved" papers to post links to. Until then, it'll be whatever one I find an interesting story in, and anyone not in approval can go stick their heads back up their jacksies.