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Discussion in 'The Tanks in World War 2 quiz section' started by Man, Aug 22, 2006.

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  1. tom!

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    Hi.

    Maybe one of those Vickers-Berthier .303 lmg?

    Yours

    tom!
     
    tom!, Sep 2, 2006
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    That's it Tom! The quiz is now yours :D
     
    McRis, Sep 3, 2006
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  3. tom!

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    Hi.

    A nice one:

    [​IMG]

    Yours

    tom! ;)
     
    tom!, Sep 3, 2006
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  4. Gunter_Viezenz

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    Soviet 45mm AT gun?
     
    Gunter_Viezenz, Sep 3, 2006
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  5. tom!

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    Hi.

    No

    Yours

    tom! ;)
     
    tom!, Sep 3, 2006
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  6. McRis

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    I think it's Japanese. Type 38 75mm Heavy Gun?
     
    McRis, Sep 4, 2006
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  7. tom!

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    Hi.

    Not really:
    [​IMG]


    No, it´s not japanese at all.

    By the way, Gunter_Viezenz got the right caliber.

    Two hints in one post...... :roll:

    Yours

    tom! ;)
     
    tom!, Sep 4, 2006
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    It looks British to me...

    I can't find any British 45mm gun though.
     
    Roel, Sep 4, 2006
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    probably a skoda?
     
    me262 phpbb3, Sep 4, 2006
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  10. tom!

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    Hi.

    Not british, not Skoda.

    Yours

    tom! ;)
     
    tom!, Sep 4, 2006
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    It looks post-war to me... Swedish?
     
    Ricky, Sep 5, 2006
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  12. tom!

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    Hi.

    It´s actually pre-WW2 and not swedish..... :D

    Hint: only a small pre-production series was made in early/mid 1939 = prototype status

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  13. me262 phpbb3

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    but the carriage looks very similar to the pak 36,?
     
    me262 phpbb3, Sep 5, 2006
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  14. tom!

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    Hi.

    A nice hint, me262.

    It´s getting warmer.

    Yours

    tom! ;)
     
    tom!, Sep 5, 2006
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    It's German?
     
    McRis, Sep 7, 2006
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  16. tom!

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    Hi.

    It´s german, 45 mm caliber and pre-war........ :)


    Yours

    tom! ;)
     
    tom!, Sep 7, 2006
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  17. me262 phpbb3

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    i give up, :oops:
     
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  18. tom!

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    Hi.

    I see no further possible hint. So here it comes:

    This is the 4,5 cm L/50 Pak prototype by Krupp, developed in late 1938/early 1939. A small pre-series production was made in 1939 for trials.

    The Pak is a parallel development to the 4,7 cm Pak Rheinmetall/ 5 cm Pak 38. The 4,7 cm Pak Rheinmetall was sold to the netherlands and captured as 4,7 cm Pak 188(h) in 1940.

    The 4,5 cm Pak was designed for export, mainly to the Soviet Union. As the soviets decides to upgun their 3,7 cm Pak Rheinmetall with the 4,5 cm barrel the 4,5 cm Pak Krupp was never built.

    Data:

    designation: 4,5 cm Pak L/50 Krupp
    caliber: 45 mm
    barrrel length: 2350 mm (L/50)
    firing height: 785 mm
    recoil length: 75 mm
    total length transport: 4000 mm
    ground clearance: 280 mm
    wheels: 800 X 142 mm
    weight firing: 500 kg
    barrel weight including muzzle break: 163 kg
    ammunition weight: 2,75 kg
    grenade weight (ap): 1,385 kg
    maximum range: 7000 m
    muzzle velocity: 750 m/sec
    penetration ability: 45 mm on 1000 m
    traverse: - 30° to 30 °with open carriage
    - 5° to 5 ° with closed carriage
    elevation: - 10° to 20°
    rate of fire: 25 shots per minute
    maximum travel velocity: 70 km/h


    A new one:

    [​IMG]

    Yours

    tom! ;)
     
    tom!, Sep 9, 2006
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  19. me262 phpbb3

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    it is german?
     
    me262 phpbb3, Sep 9, 2006
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  20. smeghead phpbb3

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    grrrr, i saw this EXACT picture yesterday but i can't for the life of me remember where is saw it or what it was...
    As far as I remember it was a German Pak-something designed for export to the Soviet Union
     
    smeghead phpbb3, Sep 10, 2006
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