Gun comments

I know quite a few actual B%E types, general felons, and assorted other miscreatants through my current employment. Suffice it to say they are 'meat on the hook' when it comes to a gun battle should any of them be stupid (and quite a few are, actually, the vast majority are, exactly that) as to decide to invade my home.
On feeding bears, skunk works is right. Rock salt in a .410 shotgun works better than krispy kreams (as Machiavelli points out, it is better to be hated than loved....). I pointed this out to a co-worker with a racoon problem but she is too sensitive to take me up on such "violent" measures.

 

Nice guns, errr weapons, errr...
What state is this range in?!?! </font>[/QUOTE]given the first cutie is wearing a Arizona Tactical Firearms t-shirt and the look of picture #2 (getting beyond the eye candy) it appears to be Ben Avery shooting range in North Phoenix Az. It certainly is not Rio Salado range in east Mesa (too much greenery). If so, I work just the other side of the hill from the range.

 

You're in nice company, then

The girl in the middle is toting what appears to be a Steyr AUG 5.56mm assault rifle, saw quite a few of them in Ireland, especially when the banks were moving money. Yes, they called the Infantry, go figure

 

I have 2 problems with this. One, you cannot shoot someone "legally" at 200yds,not even 200ft.
If someone is stealing your car,you cannot shoot him and expect NOT to being dragged thru court.
2.That's plain stupid for not firing a shot thru your gun. Is it an Automatic? Do you know it will not jam with your ammo selection?
Do you know how to un-work a jam? In the dark?

On a cherrier thought,I'd help this young lass un-jam anything.

 

I can hit the skin pore of my choice from inside my house. Just to say I have shot before, and am a better shot than most.
I'm aware that property is not self defense !
We used to shoot (at the range) golf balls taped to a piece of lath at 200 yards, then quarters. I destroyed 3 before I put one through the middle.
The pistol is a 10 shot 45cal, and the odds of a clogging with that big a tube are remote.
An unfired gun is worth twice as much as a fired one, it's still brand new, box and all.
I'm aware some?/all?/certain selected? guns are test fired at the factory with what they call "proof" ammunition (half again the powder). For just such problems.
I have others.
I love the mini-gun

 

that depends on the state, here in Oregon I have the legal right IF anyone threatens said person or my familie and comes onto my property and into my home I can take care of the fool in any way I see fit whether an iron core bullet from a sniper rifle to grenade or a Katana, hanging, whatever ~

chics with guns .......scary especially with those youngsters posing with arms that would separate their poor slender shoulders

 

"You can't seriously say that the US gun policy has no responsability into putting guns into criminal hands.

Anyway, if your burglar is a better shot than you, he'll shoot you down and now he's got 2 guns : his and yours LOL."


You can't seriously say the Australian gun policy isn't responsible for hundreds of needless deaths of innocent people.

& if the robber is a good shot, he may prevail, but one's odds increase if one not only has a gun, but practices with it & gets proficient. Without a gun, bad guy wins hands down.

 

In Arizona the current law (as of last year) makes it incumbent on the state to prove that killing someone on your property or in self defense was not self defense. Basically, most prosecutors now will not refer a case unless it is clearly not self defense.
A bad guy is in your house or just in the yard....here the cops are gonna say "nice grouping!" and drag the corpse off for you.

 

@ chrome : if not related to gun control policy, then please, explain me why the number of annual firearms casualties are so high in the USA, when compared to other occidental democracies enforcing a more restrictive gun policy.

Why is it an argue, or steal will sometimes end up with a casualty, or some other times with a broken nose or a stolen good ?

Is this a genetic flaw ? Something to do with the weather ? Allergia to lead ?

I consider people are more or less the same, those without guns are less dangerous.

@ skunk : now this is fun ! I will never feed a bear beacause I'm scared by big animals. I'm not used to big animals because I'm urban and I'm scared by big heavy animals including cows and horses lol, so feeding a bear...I will never get close in the first time

 

We have more gangs.

 

And what if gangs had less weapons ?

I mean you can't jail them all, and when you jail them, it's often too late.

 

then you could send them to the mid-east where they could have loads of fun !

 

lol ! maybe the most cost effective solution !

 

I proposed that solution back during the first contact we had on the ground with Saddam and his thugs in Kuwait ........... got no response

I think it is a quite lovely idea

 

Kind of like a modern day "Dirty Dozen"??

<A bad guy is in your house or just in the yard....here the cops are gonna say "nice grouping!" and drag the corpse off for you.> Probably thinking to themselves,"wish I shot that good".

 

Or the cops would say: "Damn! Can you imagine the paperwork this is going to create! Nice grouping, though. Have a good day."

Over here a couple of years ago I saw a tv feature where some TV reporters went to an "unsafe neighbourhood" and bought themselves a black market handgun and filmed it all, faces blurred. I can't remeber exactly what it was and I doubt the reporters knew, but it was a small automatic. At the end they went to a police station and delivered the gun. You know what? They were indicted for purchasing an illegal gun

Before moving to the small town I live in nowadays I used to live in the Big City in a suburb with some depressed areas around, with quite a lot of recent african immigrants. No problem with immigrants at all, they come here with the best intentions and they live a life of work, mainly in construction trades and they are ALL honourable people. Problem lies with the second generation, those born here, automatic citizens therefore, but who don't absorb the hard work culture of their parents, care nothing for school and integrating in the wide society. But I guess you all know the story, it must be the same everywhere.

Once a week there would be a small display of fireworks (yes, fireworks) indicating for all and sundry that a fresh supply of white and brown stuff had been delivered!

It was quite a relief when I left the suburb made up of 20 floor buildings and came into this small town.

 

And what if gangs had less weapons ?

And how do propose that? by limiting how many the people is the "asset" column of society can have?, ( the law abiding non gang members that is ), with stricter gun control laws that have no effect on how many guns a gang has? Brilliant.

 

So your explanation for more gun related crimes in USA "we have more gangs" was serious ? I really thought you were joking.

wow ! that's real deep !! You've just hit the bottom !!!

Make it more simple, just say "we have more gunning than any other rich occidental countries, but it's not because of guns, it's because we have more criminals" BRILLIANT !

Now show me where in american DNA is the gangster gene

Of course, no guns for sale won't prevent the legions and hordes of gangsters in Utah to obtain guns, they will probably smuggle them through the numerous Utah trans-national harbors, it is well known the typical 16 years old Utah gangster as strong links with the international organized crime.

Or they will probably use hidden secret factories to build guns at an industrial scale.

at least, you agree with the gangster on one subject : "don't harden the gun control policy, please !"

Anyway Chrome, I'd also like you to explain us somehting : you say more gun control will take guns from the hand of the good people and leave them without defense against the bad guys who will still have as many guns with or without gun control (the secret gun factory trick I suppose).

Then tell me why in countries where guns are greatly restricted, such as Great Britain or Japan, deaths from guns are very rare, especially compared to the United States. In fact, the USA is a world leader in the rate of homicides from guns.

Maybe English and Japanese criminal have as many guns as American criminals (you can't disagree as long as you take for granted the fact gun control has no effect on numbers of guns in criminal hands) but they are poor shooters LOL


Or maybe you should stop buying coke and crack to the bad guys...yeah that's an idea !

Forbid guns and legalize drugs in USA and the annual firearms casualties will go down. Better being high than 6 feet under

@ Za : It's more or less the same in France, and I guess in many other countries. For example in France people from foreign origins are over-represented in proletarian population, and proletarians are over represented in the criminal population.

I'm 100% sure that the difference is this population in France has no (less) guns.

for example there were riots in France in fall 2005, all other the country, people burning cars etc, for 3 weeks.

how many casualties ? zero

how many casualties in 6 days of riot in LA (1992) ? : between 50 and 60.

[ 17. January 2007, 07:45 AM: Message edited by: chocapic ]

 

Utah? The Mormon Gangsters are absolutely dreadful!

He has a point there, if you impose gun control who is going to comply with that? The law abiding citizens, others will keep happily finding guns in the black market. That's what happens here. Evidently, the good citizens with legally purchased and registered weapons will be easy to go after.

Here you have a point. That was the well regulated militia in action.

 

# 1 point the US needs NO MORE gun control laws

# 2 the thread has gone far enough as it is getting argumentive and provides no real factual information, getting cyclic. Base line ........ send all gang members to the mid-east with knives only and send them out on stealth behind the lines missions.

# 3 all women withen ages of 25 and above with 36 C plus cups should own handguns. men should not. men should be armed with no less that 1 Panzerfaust and at least 1 Panzerschreck ......... I am !

carry on as abnormal as possible

from the Platonic Sphere and the ice ridden roads ......... v/r Erich ~