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Discussion in 'Other Weapons' started by JCFalkenbergIII, Jul 12, 2008.

  1. Tiornu

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    For anyone who is maniacally detail-minded, here is the exact succession of RN names for each ship:
    M.1 > Farragut > Admiral Farragut > M.1 > Abercrombie
    M.2 > General Grant > M.2 > Havelock
    M.3 > Robert E. Lee > M.3 > Lord Raglan > Raglan
    M.4 > Stonewall Jackson > M.4 > Earl Roberts > Roberts
    The rapid renaming caused a fair amount of confusion, and variations adding "General" or "Lord" became common, even aboard the ships, but this list includes all the official names ever assigned to the ships. I will note that College, normally of highest credibility, appears in this case to have gotten it wrong in including "General Abercrombie." Curiously, "Abercrombie" is itself "wrong" in that the man's name was rightly Abercromby.
    For those who want to out-anal the most analest and the anal, you could put the names in all-caps as they appear in official pronouncements. As far as I can tell, there is no single official format for alpha-numeric designations: M.1, M 1, M-1, and M1 would probably all be acceptable.
     
  2. razin

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    JCFalkenbergIII and Tiornu.

    #112 is the WW2 Abercrombie 2 z 15inch guns
    #114 The WW1 Abercrombie 2 x 14inch guns sailing away from the camera

    :lol: Just thought I would be total anally retentive now where did I put the X-lax :lol::lol::lol:

    steve
     
  3. JCFalkenbergIII

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    LOL. And now for something completely different :)

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    MS Trawler HMCS Baffin as completed.
     
  4. Tiornu

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    Hee!
     
  5. JCFalkenbergIII

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    It happens :rolleyes: LOL
     
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    Minensuchboot 1943

    The MBoot 43 was the enlarged successor of the mine hunter type MBoot 40. To speed up the construction, those mine hunter were not build in the conventional way anymore, but by separate pre-fabricated sections which were only put together in the shipyard (like the Type XXI submarine).
    Although the primary objective for these vessels was mine hunting, they could also be equipped with depth charges and used as submarine hunters, some were also used as torpedo training ships and had two torpedo tubes installed.
    Like their predecessors, the MBoot 43 had coal fired steam engines, which made those vessels easier operational in the last years of the war.
    Over 160 ships of the MBoot 43 class were ordered from 1942 on, but only 17 were completed until the end of the war. All but one survived the war and were taken over by the allies, some of them serving until the late 1960s.

    Minensuchboot 1943 History
     
  7. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Armed Trawlers

    HMS Norwich City 1939/46

    1937 Launched, build at southbank-on-trees by Smith 's Dock. Owned by Consolideted Fisheries of Grimsby. 1939 requisitioned in september and converted to A/S. 1942 Temporary loan to the USN together with crew for A/S duties. Returned to the RN in october and transferred to the South African Station. Based at Durban for convoy duties. 1946 returned to owners. 1964 BU

    Displacement: 541 TGross 195 Tnett
    Dimensions: 190ft
    Engines 99HP
    Armament 1x4-inch
    Port Reg.: GY. 503
    P. No: FY. 229

    HMS Viviana 1939/46

    1936 Launched build at by Cochrane. Owned by the Atlas SF Co. of Grimsby.
    1939 requisitioned in october and converted to A/S. Based at Grimsby (ungrouped). Transferred to the South African Statio an based at Durban for convoy escorts. 1946 returned to owners in may.

    Displacement: 452 TGross 310 Tnett
    Engines: 114HP
    Port Reg.: GY. 233
    P. No: FY. 238

    RN Armed Trawlers - Other WWII Royal Navy Ships - Discussion - Discussion Areas - The Flower Class Corvette and WWII Royal Navy Forums - Message Board - Yuku
     
  8. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Royal Navy 56 steam Picket Boat

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    HMT WAR DUKE

    RNPS
     
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    whats the armanent for that ship
     
  11. JCFalkenbergIII

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    2 x 20mm AA guns

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  14. Tiornu

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    My goodness. What is that, parade time in the Higgins pool?
     
  15. JCFalkenbergIII

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    LOL. From top to bottom: a US Army Q boat, a US Army Aircraft Rescue boat, a US Navy Picket boat, and a US Navy Landing boat.
     
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    Does anyone have any information on the Philippine OSP in 1941/42 and what craft they used? What actions were they in and what eventually happened to them?
     
  18. Falcon Jun

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    You're referring to the Philippine Offshore Patrol. I'll check. For now, here's something.
     

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    JC, here's something else I gathered from De La Salle University.

    The Off Shore Patrol
    During the Philippine Commonwealth under President Manuel L Quezon,
    the Filipino Navy existed as adjunct to the United States
    Armed Forces. Filipinos served the US military service.
    With the creation of a separate Philippine armed force, a naval
    organization was formed as a seagoing arm of the Philippine
    Army. On 09 February 1939, the Off Shore Patrol (OSP) was
    organized with headquarters located at Muelle Del Codo, Port
    Area, and Manila. It was headed by 1LT JOSE V ANDRADA,
    a graduate of the US Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland.
    Initially, the OSP was assigned with three US Navy
    Motor Torpedo Boats and christened as follows:
    1.
    Luzon (Q-111)
    83-footer
    2.
    Abra (Q-112) -
    65-footer
    3.
    Agusan (Q-113) - 65-footer


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    On 09 January 1941, the OSP Training School was organized with CAPT MARCELO S CASTELO OSP PA as its first Commandant. It offered courses in torpedoes, depth charges, communications, seamanship, engineering and operations of gasoline engines in consonance with the characteristics and capabilities of the Q-Boats. During World War II, however, Japanese planes bombed the OSP Headquarters on 23 December 1941. The Base Commander burned the base before Japanese troops entered Manila.

    The Philippine Naval Patrol
    The Off Shore Patrol was reactivated on 01 October
    1945, just after World War II. The OSP Training School was
    transferred to Cavite Naval Shipyard and renamed OSP
    Training Center; The OSP was further expanded and became
    a major unit of the Philippine Armed Forces. On 04 October
    1947, the OSP was renamed Philippine Naval Patrol (PNP)
    during the time of President Manuel Roxas. On 05 January
    1951, the PNP was further designated as the Philippine Navy.
     
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