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Discussion in 'The Guns Galore Section' started by liang, Aug 21, 2004.

  1. GP

    GP New Member

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    You can have tenths of and inch or tenths of a mm, or anything.


    P.s our steering wheel is on the right side and therefore the correct side.
     
  2. Christian Ankerstjerne

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    USA use the metric system as well.

    Both systems are of course equally accurate, it's only a matter of which is more intuitive to calculate with. Of course, you can have have a tenth of an inch, just as you can have one sixteenth of a centimeter. The imperial system implies the use of different fractions that what can be considered practical, though.

    In either case, all absolute measurements are calculated from physical constants (except for the kilogram, which has no absolute weight), and then converted to the metric system. They will then have to be converted to the imperial system, from the metric system to get the absolute measurement, but the conversion rate is a constant and thus both measurements are equally accurate - the metric system is just faster to use.

    KBO
    According to law no. 153 of 1912-06-08, §1, one foot is 0.314 meter and one inch is 2.6 centimeter. Basically, it is illegal (in Denmark) to use any other conversion rate.
     
  3. Tony Williams

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    Indeed they do, and increasingly so in the military. I think the US Army is almost entirely metric (the old .50 BMG keeps its designation, but newer .50s are called 12.7mm guns), but the USN still lags, referring to their standard gun as the '5 inch'.

    Odd. In the UK one foot = 0.3048 m, and one inch = 2.54 cm.

    Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website and Discussion forum
     
  4. Ebar

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    Britain in theory uses metric system but in practice the change over was done in the unusual half arsed way the UK does everything, which is to say we pandered to those elements who were too set in their ways (bloody congealed if you ask me) or down right dim to count in tens. So like most people of my generation I tend to think in a mish-mash of metric and imperial.


    We don't drive on the wrong side of the road we merely waited to see what everyone else did then exercised our god given right to be bloody awkward
     
  5. KBO

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    Yes i know... just fouled around some numbers thats all.......

    Is it "illegal" to use inches for messurements in denmark..... didnt know that ..... Thanks :D


    Best regards, KBO
     
  6. Greg Pitts

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    Well I guess I am just old fashioned!

    I don't like the metric system. Rarely use it and much prefer inches, feet, pounds and miles.

    Guess it depends on what one is used to.

    And yes, the USA military has gone largely to metric, which may explain their mentality of going from the .45 ACP to the 9mm pistol and from the 30-06 to the questionable 5.56 round. Seems like someone got confused on their numbers!

    Oops.... that was hateful! Sorry! :wink:

    :smok:
     
  7. KBO

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    I agree...

    It depends on what your use to........ the two kinds of messurements are just as accurate......

    Regards, KBO
     
  8. Christian Ankerstjerne

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    That's what happens when politics meets science - complete confusion ;)

    The conversion rate is logical by the law itself, as the law includes conversions of all existing laws using the imperial system (and some of the strange Danish systems that were used, such as 'A barrel of beer' and 'A barrel of tax-obligated beer', which are two different measurements :)) to the metric system.
     
  9. Roel

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    Christian, long ago I have launched a question comparable to yours, and I got into a fight with British members because they saw no reason to convert to the metric system... Careful on the subject, I'd suggest.

    And Greg: we have so many languages, and only two main systems of measurement. It's a miracle we don't all use a different system! :grin:
     
  10. Christian Ankerstjerne

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    That's because the British brought the Imperial system around the world ;)
     
  11. Ricky

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    huzzah for the Empire!
    :wink:

    metric does seem more logical, but I am far more used to feet & inches.
    I find it hard to visulate distances in cm, meters, km.
    I can do nice round numbers (eg: 3 meters is just over 9 foot)
    but when somebody says they are 1 meter 70 cm tall, I just don't know.
    If you said 5 foot 6 inches, I can see that!

    To broaden it out - why do we still use a system of time based on multiples of 12?

    My thought is that 12s (as used in imperial length measurements, time units, members of a jury, etc) are more versatile. 10 can be easily divided by 1, 2, 5 & 10. 12 can be easily divided by 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 & 12. This has all kinds of useful functions...

    P.S: is this off topic yet?
     
  12. Christian Ankerstjerne

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    The imperial system would be easier to calculate with, if it utilized a tridecimal number system, e.g.
    1
    2
    3
    4
    5
    6
    7
    8
    9
    A
    B
    C

    This way, the comma would work the same way as with the decimal system.
     
  13. Roel

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    This is way over my head... Christain, are you a mathematician in your free time? :grin:

    Rciky: I have exactly the same problem with the imperial system. I know 30 feet is about 10 meters, but when someone tells me he's 5 foot 9 I'm busy for a while. :D
     
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    Nah, everything besides binary and hexadecimal systems are irrelevant. The Power of 2 ! :smok:
     
  15. Ricky

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    yeah, converting it to a 'base 12' system like the Babylonians had would be the ideal solution.

    Roel - I feel your pain!
     
  16. liang

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    Again I was caught lying with my pants down, thanks for the correction Patrice. 264 feet, not meters.
     
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    according to my book this is 80 cm Gr Be:fuzed Bd Z C/38 not the Z 40K
     
  18. Patrice

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    Hello.
    me262,you are rigth,I made a typo.shame on me
     
  19. liang

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    Ammo for the Gustav?

    I think this could be the rusted ammo of the Gustav gun. It's much larger than the American 16-inch naval shell or the Japanese 18-inch. I can't think of anything else.

    [​IMG]
     
  20. Roel

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    Whoa, sweet... Is that you liang? Post it in the I Dare You topic! :grin:

    If this is a Gustav shell (and I couldn't think of what else it should be) then it is whole, with detonator and everything... Nice.
     

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