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Discussion in 'The Tanks of World War 2' started by beaton, Jun 10, 2005.

  1. beaton

    beaton New Member

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    Im doing a history project and i was wondering if you guys know any good websites that have information that compare tanks; specificaly the sherman, tiger, panzer , t-34


    - Thanks a million
     
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    The website wwiivehicles.com has pictures and descriptions on tanks from every country involved in World War II. It does not have long articles but has a lot of stats such as size, top speed, weight, gun velocity, ect.

    www.wwiivehicles.com
     
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    you have to be careful though when quoting armour and gun, thus weight, speed and effectivness.

    The main tanks, Mark IV, T-34, Sherman were constantly upgraded throughout the war with more armour and bigger guns.

    A 45 mark IV was a very different beast to those that crushed Poland and then France.

    Frankly you'd be better off sticking to one nation or one year, as to cover all nations, all tanks and then all versions is a VERY BIG project.

    FNG
     
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    ok i was just thinking that i could say the stats for the tank and how they compared to the other tanks
     
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    If you were to try that for the tanks throughout the whole war you'd end up writing a book, and not a particularly thin one at that.

    Faced witht that and what you have in mind I'd probably pick the Blitzkreig through France, Belgium and the Netherlands. You've got early versions of the Panzer IV and III, Panzer II and I, some of the Assault guns and captured/impressed Czech Tanks, Matlida's, Somuas, Char B's Renaults and probably a few others as well (As you may have guessed my knowledge of tanks isn't exactly fantastic...! I'm sure others here could give you a better line up of the Blitzkreig tanks)

    If you found yourself with words left over you could then go on to describe the pre or post-blitzkreig developments or careers of these tanks or (Briefly) describe the impact of air power on the blitzkreig.

    An equally good option would be Barbarossa up to the battle for Moscow, or the tanks of the Battle of Kursk. Either way you're best off really limiting yourself to a single campaign.

    Edit: Doh! Just read your initial post... :oops:

    "Panzer" was simply the German word for tank, within the tanks actually termed Panzer was the Panzer I to VI including the Tiger and there were a myriad of versions of these including Assault guns and Tank Destroyers, similarly both the Sherman and T-34 had many versions all with greatly differing performance, armour and firepower.

    Just covering all the different Tank versions of the Panzer IV, Tiger, Sherman and T-34 would be quite a task, never mind earlier Panzers, Assault guns, and Tank Destroyers!
     
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    ok well i was just thinking that i could compare the t-34 to the panther and the tiger to sherman. Maybe next time i'll elabourate on it because im only in 8th grades and this presentation is only going to be 3 mins long[/u]
     
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    Ah, well, unfair comparisons.

    The Panther was designed specifically to be much better than the T-34

    The Tiger was a heavy tank, designed to spearhead attacks, while the Sherman was a medium tank.

    A better comparison would be Sherman / Panzer IV / T-34, as these were the standard (and most numerous) medium tanks used.

    Basic overview -

    Panzer IV started as a support tank (anti-tank was the role of the Panzer III), evolved into a medium tank, and was constantly upgraded during the war, and was always roughly equivalent to its counterparts. It generally had a better gun, but worse armour.

    Sherman also started as more of a support tank (anti-tank was the role of anti-tank guns and dedicated 'tank-destoryer' vehicles), but was used as a medium tank. Although better than the tanks that Britain & America had previously, it was still 'mediocre' - low-velocity gun, insuffieicent armour against the better German guns, etc. However, it too was regularly updated, and finished to war as a good medium tank.

    T-34 was the best of the best when it was first produced - good, well-sloped armour, excellent mobility, a good gun (if a little weak for its caliber). However, the Germans quickly built new tanks / improved existing tanks to deal with it, and the Russians were slow to bring out an improved model, the T-34/85, with a bigger gun.

    All-in-all, they remained roughly equal throughout the war, with each having some advantages over the others. ;)
     

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