Welcome to the WWII Forums! Log in or Sign up to interact with the community.

High Tech German military

Discussion in 'Armor and Armored Fighting Vehicles' started by JCFalkenbergIII, May 24, 2008.

Page 24 of 36
  1. JCFalkenbergIII

    JCFalkenbergIII Expert

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2008
    Messages:
    10,480
    Likes Received:
    426
    Try for a start posts # 56,57 and 62. They explain alot.
     
    JCFalkenbergIII, Jan 30, 2009
    #461
  2. JCFalkenbergIII

    JCFalkenbergIII Expert

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2008
    Messages:
    10,480
    Likes Received:
    426
    [​IMG]
     
    JCFalkenbergIII, Jan 30, 2009
    #462
  3. paratrooper506

    paratrooper506 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2009
    Messages:
    693
    Likes Received:
    2
    well they were for pulling artillery supply carts and so on
     
    paratrooper506, Jan 30, 2009
    #463
  4. T. A. Gardner

    T. A. Gardner Genuine Chief

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2003
    Messages:
    6,212
    Likes Received:
    940
    Location:
    Phoenix Arizona

    Because, Germany had a miniscule automotive industry in WW 2. They also had a severe lack of petroleum (eg., gasoline....). Besides, when they got themselves surrounded like at Stalingrad they had a ready supply of food for the siege.....

    [rolleyes]
     
    T. A. Gardner, Jan 30, 2009
    #464
  5. paratrooper506

    paratrooper506 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2009
    Messages:
    693
    Likes Received:
    2
    well in truth I never knew that cause when the germans became surrounded in starlinggrad supplies were sent by plane although not alot of them made it because of russian aa guns.:pPmp40fire:
     
    paratrooper506, Jan 30, 2009
    #465
  6. JCFalkenbergIII

    JCFalkenbergIII Expert

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2008
    Messages:
    10,480
    Likes Received:
    426
    [​IMG]

    Russia
     
    JCFalkenbergIII, Jan 30, 2009
    #466
  7. Wolfy

    Wolfy Ace

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2008
    Messages:
    1,900
    Likes Received:
    90
    how fast could a horse-drawn German infantry division in 1941 advance in a day compared to a Panzer or Panzergrenadier division?
     
    Wolfy, Jan 30, 2009
    #467
  8. JCFalkenbergIII

    JCFalkenbergIII Expert

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2008
    Messages:
    10,480
    Likes Received:
    426
    Ab0ut the same as in 1942,1943.1944.1945.
     
    JCFalkenbergIII, Jan 30, 2009
    #468
  9. paratrooper506

    paratrooper506 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2009
    Messages:
    693
    Likes Received:
    2
    horses could move faster than tanks if thats what you,re saying
     
    paratrooper506, Jan 30, 2009
    #469
  10. T. A. Gardner

    T. A. Gardner Genuine Chief

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2003
    Messages:
    6,212
    Likes Received:
    940
    Location:
    Phoenix Arizona
    Well, that's a tough question to answer. I suggest you read some on the subject like Robert Heimbolt's Rates of Advance in Land Combat Operations or possibly Trevor Dupuy's Understanding War for the answer to that question.
     
    T. A. Gardner, Jan 30, 2009
    #470
  11. paratrooper506

    paratrooper506 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2009
    Messages:
    693
    Likes Received:
    2
    well now I think that they could both advance at about the same rate
     
    paratrooper506, Jan 30, 2009
    #471
  12. Wolfy

    Wolfy Ace

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2008
    Messages:
    1,900
    Likes Received:
    90
    Thanks.

    No, Panzer and Panzergrenadier divisions were fully motorized/mechanized (well, at least before the final year of the war) with generally no horses.

    The panzergrenadier infantry regiments were mostly transported by trucks with the minority in armored halftracks.
     
    Wolfy, Jan 30, 2009
    #472
  13. JCFalkenbergIII

    JCFalkenbergIII Expert

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2008
    Messages:
    10,480
    Likes Received:
    426
    Oh really? And where did you come up with that? Are you just thinking Horse cavalry or supply units that had to keep up with the infantry or armored units? Most supply and logistic units were horse drawn.
     
    JCFalkenbergIII, Jan 30, 2009
    #473
  14. paratrooper506

    paratrooper506 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2009
    Messages:
    693
    Likes Received:
    2
    oh well thats new
     
    paratrooper506, Jan 30, 2009
    #474
  15. JCFalkenbergIII

    JCFalkenbergIII Expert

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2008
    Messages:
    10,480
    Likes Received:
    426
    Whats new? Did you take the time to read the posts that I mentioned above? You realize that the Germans used over 2 MILLION horses dont you?
     
    JCFalkenbergIII, Jan 30, 2009
    #475
  16. T. A. Gardner

    T. A. Gardner Genuine Chief

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2003
    Messages:
    6,212
    Likes Received:
    940
    Location:
    Phoenix Arizona
    On advance rates: Are we talking average advance rates? Theoretical advance rates? Operational or strategic advance rates outside combat? Or, are we going to discuss complex wave theory with porportional integration - differentiated (PID) advance rates within a particular campaign? We could also discuss mini-max theories on advance rates if you'd like, among other variants.
     
    T. A. Gardner, Jan 30, 2009
    #476
  17. JCFalkenbergIII

    JCFalkenbergIII Expert

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2008
    Messages:
    10,480
    Likes Received:
    426
    Quit usin them thar big fancy type words T.A. :eek: LOL :p
     
    JCFalkenbergIII, Jan 30, 2009
    #477
  18. Wolfy

    Wolfy Ace

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2008
    Messages:
    1,900
    Likes Received:
    90
    haha, I may have to study more WW2 texts to get to that level.
     
    Wolfy, Jan 30, 2009
    #478
  19. T. A. Gardner

    T. A. Gardner Genuine Chief

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2003
    Messages:
    6,212
    Likes Received:
    940
    Location:
    Phoenix Arizona

    More like take a degree in mathematics or industrial engineering. Between the statistics and calculus involved.......
     
    T. A. Gardner, Jan 30, 2009
    #479
  20. Wolfy

    Wolfy Ace

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2008
    Messages:
    1,900
    Likes Received:
    90
    I'm ok with first course college Calculus and business statistics but I haven't studied beyond that, lol.

    What level does it require?
     
    Wolfy, Jan 30, 2009
    #480
Page 24 of 36

Share This Page