Historian Charged With Denying Holocaust

But the point of Newspeak is - how can you express this dissatisfaction with Big Brother when you have no ideological or linguistic concept of rebellion or revolt. When in order to speak out against Big Brother beyond a 'BB is ungood' level you will need to invent new words, which is fine for you, but impossible to share with a wider audience.

 

Well,the point of newspeak is not to cover up your emotions...i believe that the whole point of the "1984" society was to inflict suffering since suffering stabilises society.And if you had read carefully,i had mentioned that newspeak alone can control the mind to a certain extent,but other "techniques" would be needed to complement newspeak. You don't cook meat stew just by meat alone,you need other ingredients right?Same concept.

 

Ah, so dictatorship is all about cooking! Good to know that

 

YEs i very much believe so.You can give anything an analogy if you want and i decided mine would be cooking.

 

Well, it's half about cooking...

Never heard the phrase 'bread & circuses'?

(incidently, it is strictly 'bread and chariot races', but that is much less snappy... )

 

"Panem et circenses", I believe it is generally translated as "bread and games"; it was essential to the preservation of order in ancient Rome that the state-controlled import of grain (a city of over one million could not subsist off of the land around it!) and the state-organized games and races were all operating nicely.

Hm, good point.

 

Anyway, back to David Irving...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4734648.stm

 

I ask myself wether this all is not contraproductive.

I mean if some speech restriction may prevent WW2 like genocide to happen again then fine, I' m totally in favour of it.
However I fear that by banning hate speech you prevent the people who think that way to be ridiculed and their idea's to be defeated in public.
Instead they go underground and can develop there.
Isn't this whole Irving affair just making a martyr out of the guy....?

Maybe after all we should get rid of that speech law.

 

The only people which this sentence has served are the Islamists, for whom this is a gift which could not have been presented to them at a better time. Proof of the double standard of the west, and their so-called freedom of expression.

I don't think any form of restrictions on the freedom of speech will prevent much at all. I believe quite the opposite, that restrictions in fact will endanger us. If this makes hate speech legal, fine, let the worms come out in daylight. It's a lot easier to handle them that way. Incitements on the other hand have nothing to with the freedom of expression, but that's another story.

 

And a last little bit...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4757506.stm