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hot coffee/tea--why?

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  1. Poppy

    Poppy grasshopper

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    "the coffee-tea thread more replies than my other war related threads.....?? figure that"

    Yeah, it kinda does look like people come here to chat. Maybe it is a chat site... Nothing wrong with that.
    Viva la chat.
     
  2. KJ Jr

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    Be careful, you may be thrown in to cooler.
     
  3. Takao

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    If it is the Swiss Premium Lemonade Tea Cooler...Lock me up and throw away the key!

    Wait...That's iced tea, and not that hot muddy water that our friends across the pond drink.
     
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    Odd coincidence, I'm just watching Black Hawk Down on one of the movie channels and there's Grimes in the middle of the Mogadishu catastrophe surrounded by hundreds of guys with AK47s, brewing up Starbucks Gold Coast blend over a Sterno can. You can still buy Starbucks Gold Coast blend but they call it "Morning Joe" now. I don't know why they changed the name, but it's good Indonesian coffee with some Colombian added, dark roasted.
     
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    The name change came about, IIRC in 2009, when Starbucks began sponsoring MSNBC's "Morning Joe" show.

    The name changed back to Gold Coast Blend in the coffee stores sometime in 2014-15...After one of the hosts joked that Starbucks prices were so high that they should be subsidized by the government. It took longer to change the name of the bagged coffee sold in supermarkets - since the packaging had already been produced with the "Morning Joe" name.

    I agree with the MSNBC host - Starbucks is wayyyy over priced for what you get. I am perfectly happy with my Wawa coffee.at 1/3rd the price.
     
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    hot coffee--why Starbucks? [​IMG]

    I can't stand the stuff.Yucko! Can't even walk past one on the sidewalk. Makes me gag. Have to cross the street.
    Tried it once. Tasted like burned fireplace ashes. Had to take a tongue depressor and scrap the crap off my tongue. [​IMG]
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  7. KJ Jr

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    I agree Fred, my buds find it revolting as well.
     
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    Starbucks isn't a kind of coffee, it's just a retailer. Most of what they sell is just Colombian coffee, the cheapest coffee on the market, and you're paying a premium price because it has the Starbucks name attached. Whether Starbucks or anyone else, just look for the country and you'll notice a difference between flavors. Any Sumatran is good, low acid (low or no bitterness) and lots flavor, Indonesian is good, Kenyan is good. All different, but they all tend to be low acid, which is what I like.

    Most Latin American coffees (Colombian, Costa Rican, Mexican) tend to the bitter side, which some people prefer. I don't, and know enough that when seeing a catchy title without a country listed, it's just plain old Colombian. At any rate, if you like a bit of bitterness, just walk past all the boutique brands and buy dark roasted Hill's Bros for half the price. It's the same as Starbucks or any of the boutique brands with catchy names.

    Sumatran, dark roasted, is my favorite and I buy it no matter who the distributor is - whatever brand on the shelf is the lowest price. It all tastes the same because it's the same bean grown in the same soil and climate.
     
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    is it a true scene? as Ownen shows, this thread should've been in the Military Section

    I like the cooler.....
     
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    Yes, I believe so. Ridley Scott based the film very closely on the book which was drawn from accounts of the men there. Grimes was one of them. I read the book about the time film came out and I don't recall if Grimes said he made coffee, but why wouldn't he?
     
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    I don't care what kind it is, I'll drink them all. I'd never had a cup prior to joining the Marine Corps, now couldn't live without it. I drink it black. Despite what everyone is saying I think it's the caffeine boost. Best cup I've ever had in my life was in the field, it wasn't some nice fancy brand or some special bean. It was a packet of powdered coffee that comes in C-Rats and MRE's, mixed with the Cocoa beverage powder, sugar packets and non-dairy creamer from the accessories pack, and heated with a sliver of C4. A small luxury when you have none is very much appreciated. Tobacco and coffee are what fuels the infantryman. During the American Civil War Confederates and Federals carried out a brisk trade in tobacco (which the south had plenty of) and coffee which the Federals had ample supplies. Confederates even resorted to roasting acorns and chicory for an ersatz coffee.

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    A cup of good hot Joe after a tough fight.
     
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    You can still buy chicory coffee in New Orleans. I think it's half chicory and half coffee. I think even after the war when coffee was again available, poverty forced people to stretch their coffee with chicory and they developed a taste for it. It's actually quite good.
     
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    another good picture...I have this in one of my WW2 books
     
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    Yeah, my wife buys chicory coffee sometimes, it is good. I'm not so sure I'd like the roasted acorn/chicory blend though.
     
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    great job Owen could that have been used much?? I'm thinking coffee beans or whatever were hard to get, even for soldiers of the Reich??
    what I meant Price was I haven't seen that picture in the many books I've read....just in the one I got from a friend......after the battle pictures not as common....
     
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    lots of trivia in that link....I never heard of it...I'll have to check it out....I don't remember it from Seinfeld..which story was that?
    I'm reading East of Chosin, again, and there was some soldier who was really bad off from the attack and cold,...... the first thing mentioned when he got back to a 'secure' area, was that he was offered coffee.......I never would've given that line a second thought, until now.....RCT31 is getting hammered and 'wiped out', outnumbered many times, and they specifically mention coffee
     
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    I had heard of chicory coffee but hadn't had any. Then a friend of mine who was a reporter at the time got an assignment (took some finagling on his part) to cover the Yorktown Bicentennial I thought it sounded like a fun trip so we got in my pickup and followed a rev war cannon crew down to Yorktown. He was a bit under the weather so after we set up camp (rather than get a motel we camped out) I made a run to the local grocery store. After carefully choosing a coffee that was a course grind (we were going to be having boiled coffee) I headed to the cash register only to spot a can of chicory coffee now since he was also a ACW re-enactor and very interested in the ACW in general I thought he'd appreciate it as well so I bought that instead. Didn't realize until I got back to camp that it was fine (drip) grind. Made good coffee but the bottom third of the pot got a bit thick. Later bought some chicory at a bulk food store and made a beverage from that. Won't repeat that experiment.
     
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    http://nordiccoffeeculture.com/maxed-out-a-closer-look-at-coffee-consumption-in-finland/

    The Finns consume the most coffee per capita in the World. In the FDF however tea is the usual drink, drank typically in the mornings. Coffee was (is?) served on Sundays and on special occasions.

    The military coffee was (is?) however not of the best variety. At least some decades ago we were offered the "Kesto" (Longevity) brand for "vangeille ja varusmiehille" (for inmates and conscripts)...

    However better coffee etc. is available in the cantiin ("sotilaskoti" / Soldier home), ran by a voluntary female organization, for a modest price. They even run canteen vans for field use.
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Sotilaskotiauto_Merivoimien_vuosip%C3%A4iv%C3%A4_2014_01.JPG

    http://www.puolustusvoimat.fi/wcm/b2855280487b1fc9b540f5403fe5943d/1/sotkuauto.jpg?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=b2855280487b1fc9b540f5403fe5943d/1

    During the war(s) the female voluntary organization "Lotta Svärd" ran Lotta canteens in the fronts. The canteens varied a lot from very primitive to quite elaborate, but the items on sale were always the same. Coffee was the #1 sale item - despite of the fact that quite soon there was no real coffee in it!

    http://www.palasuomenhistoriaa.net/kuvat/lottavalokuvat/slides/kanttiini.jpg
     

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