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Discussion in 'The Stump' started by edhunter76, Sep 3, 2015.

  1. Takao

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    Yes, yes, it is. Read the contracts...including "the fine print."
     
  2. LJAd

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    Correction : the Carter Center claims that it was spending those funds on humanitarian projects, but given what we know what humanitarian means for Carter, I would not be surprised if these funds were spent on terroristic projects around the globe . I do not believe what is saying a former US president who is praising and defending the dictator of North Korea .
     
  3. Takao

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    Please post proof to support your spurious assumptions.

    Regardless of what you assume, Carter did a lot of good mending relations with the North Koreans, and keeping them from developing nuclear weapons. It was Bush II that trashed all of that work...The result...4 years after Bush II shredded the Agreed Framework, North Korea detonated it's first nuclear weapon.
     
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    Proofs for your spurious assumptions ?
     
  5. Takao

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    Spurious...Bogus, false, misleading...

    Yes, please post proof that the Carter Center is funding terrorist projects around the globe.

    I am all ears.
     
  6. LJAd

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    Carter has been bought by the Arabs:first by the Zayed Center and than by the Zayed Foundation (these are the Muslim equivalents of Stormfront) :imagine a former US president who accepts publicly and enthusiastically money from Stormfront .
     
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    Why should I ? I never said that Carter was funding terrorist projects around the worls : your strawman use is not succeeding .
     
  8. Takao

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    Ahh...So, then you would be surprised that the Carter Center was funding terrorism around the globe.


    Yes...the Arabs bought Carter with and entire vast 3% of the Carter Foundation has received. We've been down this road before.
     
  9. LJAd

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    He that can not keep a penny,shall not have many .

    Besides,why do you think that the Arab potentates were giving Carter all that money ?

    The answer is obvious : because he is a supporter of the Islam and an enemy of the Jews .

    They will give DT not a penny .
     
  10. belasar

    belasar Court Jester

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    People give money to the Foundations of notable persons like ex-presidents simply to gain some measure of influence and to show how self aware they are to the 'world plight'. That is also why foundations are created in the first place. Largely its a massive ego stroke for both parties, the giver and receiver. To be honest its about optics as much as it is in doing the right thing.

    Its funny you have such a high opinion of Mr Trump and his fiscal scruples. How exactly do you think he made his money in the first place? He leverages other peoples money while contributing a relatively small amount of his own money. When his 'deals' fall though he bails, too often leaving the principal investors holding the bag. His other source of income is in lawsuits, many frivolous like suing reporters/news agencies for 'under reporting his wealth' and anything critical about his business practices.

    Mr Trump is a old time robber baron, to be fair this country was built on such people, but the acquisition of money is his only moral compass. He will gladly take every slime dime offered to him, no better, no worse than any other.
     
  11. Takao

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    This statement has a rating of...
    "Liar, Liar, Pants of Fire!"

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    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/07/donald-trump-loves-muslims-if-they-re-rich.html



    http://www.golf.com/courses-and-travel/tiger-trump-team-new-dubai-course

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DFlb-1yNj4

    http://www.thenational.ae/uae/tourism/donald-trumps-dubai-visit-causes-a-stir

    http://www.arabianbusiness.com/damac-boss-denies-stealing-donald-trump-from-nakheel-547148.html


    LJAd,
    As you can plainly see, Darth Trump is more than willing to take Muslim money, and buy Muslim properties when it suits his needs. He is just as willing to throw the Muslims under the bus when it suits his needs.

    I wonder how Darth Trump's recent rants are going to play out with his Muslim business partners...
    Looks like they are less than pleased with Darth "Two-Face" Trump
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BZ8e3X4hCo
     
  12. LJAd

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    DT did not receive money from the Arabs : he did business with the Arabs . A quid pro quo : DT had something the Arabs needed .

    Afaics, it is not the mission of the Carter Foundation to do business .What was it that the Carter Foundation had that the Arabs needed ?

    They are not that stupid to give away money for free .
     
  13. Poppy

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    "Liar, Liar, Pants of Fire!"
    Shouldn't that read: pants on fire?
    Why would anyone buy pants of fire - ouch- that is crazy...But if one lies so much, your pants catch fire, that is a different story.
    Lying so much, your pants spontaneously catch fire is instant justice, and should be government issue to all politicians.

    Jimmy Carter is a good man, who has done a lot of good deeds. Maybe not the best president ever, because honest men don't make good politicians.
    Jimmy banned Iranian students back in the day.
     
  14. LJAd

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    1)Such as ?


    2) The best understatement of the year

    3) No : for good politicians, to be honest is subordinated to the protection of the interests of the country .

    Lying is a part of the job :if someone is saying : I am honest Jimmy,or he is a liar,or he will be a bad president, or both .
     
  15. Takao

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    There is not enough space to list them all in several posts.

    But, you are welcome to keep clinging to your "security blankie."


    I'd give the nod to lwd with his "In ljad's fantasy world facts and logic aren't really relevant."



    Honesty is protection of the interests of the country.
    If you are doing something, and then lying about it...You should not be doing it in the first place.



    George Washington could not tell a lie, George W. Bush & Richard Nixon could not tell the truth, and Bill Clinton did not know the difference. Which one of the four was the best President?

    Lying is not, and never has been part of the job description.
     
  16. LJAd

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    A president must do business with liars at Capitol Hill and abroad , thus ... as Winston said :in war (and plitics) truth is that vulnerable that it must be surrounded by a body-guard of lies .

    Besides: the electors do not want to hear the truh : if a president does tell the truth,he will not be reelected .
     
  17. LJAd

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    The story of Washington and the cherry tree is fiction .

    Besides, if Washington never lied , how did he get his false teeth ?


    Ike lied, Kennedy lied, Johnson lied, Nixon lied,Ford lied,Reagan, old Bush, Clinton, young Bush,Obama,..thus why would Carter not lie?
     
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  19. Takao

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    Churchill said that in the context of intelligence and counter-intelligence work...

    No points, yet again, for LJAd.

    Yes, it began about 10 years after he died.


    Poor diet and dental hygiene...Duh.

    This statement does more to explain your dour outlook on life than anything else.
     
  20. LJAd

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    The facts are that Ike etc lied and the fact is that it is proven that Carter lied :he had to,because it was a part of the job .
     

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