I think white people got a little scared and voted...

I trimmed and numbered Lou's post in order to answer them more easily.

1. No more tougher than it has been on straight, Christian people for the last eight years. It could have been worse, but now we don't have to worry about that, at least for 4 more years.

2. Yeah, the divisiveness has really shown through the last couple of nights with the "wah wah we lost" Clinton supporters out rioting in the streets and vandalizing businesses, cars, beating up on people they suspected of voting for Trump, etc. Neither Hilliary nor the current el presidente has made an attempt to call for them to control themselves. What character they have.

3. Good, gay marriage should have never been allowed and abortion is murder, plain and simple. What gets me about the bleeding libs is that they are so opposed to capital punishment for ultra-violent offenders but have no qualms about aborting (killing) a baby. After 34 years as a policeman, I can assure you that those animals are not locked up for singing too loud in church.

4. Restrict voting rights in what way? There are poll watchers at every polling place I've ever voted at, and I am in the deepest of the deep South. Poll watchers are out in force representing the democrats, feminists, blacks, Latinos, LBGT's and other off the wall whiny groups. I've never witnessed anyone to be stopped from voting. I get asked to present ID every time. Doesn't bother me, all my credentials are always in order. Cleansing the voter's rolls of people who have been dead for decades is a problem for some? Or of those in the penitentiary? Or keeping convicted felons from voting? By asking voters to show some sort of ID to keep dead people from voting, or to keep others from voting in multiple locations? You have to show ID to get food stamps, welfare, and other government gimme goods, but not to vote? It's a special kind of stupid to think proving who you are before you vote is some sort of hindrance to casting a ballot or violating one's civil rights.

If any of this gets anyone's panties all twisted up, well so be it. The truth hurts at times. I'm conservative in nature and in life, and these are some of my views. I don't put political signs in my yard or political bumper stickers on my truck or wear political pins. Never have, never will. I don't get into political or religious debates with friends or anyone else. That's the quickest way to end a friendship or get into a fist fight, especially at a bar. What anyone else believes is good for them. And who I want to vote for, for whatever reason is my business. I don't have to explain why I voted for who I voted for and why to anyone. And I could care less who anyone else votes for. I spent 37 years in uniform (Army/police) defending other peoples rights and standing up for those who couldn't do so for themselves. So now I get called a racist, a hater, a nazi and worse for voting my conscious by the peace loving and open minded right wing liberals because I don't see or do things their way? Fonk that. That's why the vote turned out the way it did, by the way I just now explained. Too many people were fed up by the way things are and were heading and want positive change to come about. And I really didn't want to be drawn into such an exchange as this, but sometimes I feel like Popeye did in the old cartoons - "that's all I can stands, I can't stands no more". I like Lou, and consider him a friend, I really do, but we all don't have to think the same way or like the same things all of the time. But when you get on the stump and state your unsolicited personal views (this thread is about the OP's theory that the white folks got a little scared and voted for Trump), you must expect some sort of responding. I'm sure I got it coming too, but so be it.

We live in a republic, not a democracy. And thank the Founding Fathers for the electoral college. The system worked, now get over yourselves and the fact that Hillary will not get into the oval office. The sun came up and the sky didn't fall.

Ahhhhh. Much better now.

 

This is a pretty good bit of info, and another look into why one candidate lost and why the other one won. I think that it makes sense. You decide.

http://tribunist.com/news/mike-rowe-finally-weighs-in-on-trumps-victory-hillarys-supporters-wont-like-this/

 

What enemy ? Iran, ISIS, ....?

 

1 ° Trump won because he is Trump :I doubt that an other GOP candidate would have won .

2 ° Hillary lost because she was Hillary : maybe an other Democrat could have won, but not against Trump .

3 ° Trump won (while the GOP lost seats in Congress ) because there is a populist revolt against the political/financial/media establishment :Trump does not belong to this establishment, Hillary is the symbol of this establishment .

4 ° The GOP should better remember that ,while Trump won, she was going down .If she refuses to accept the facts, she risks to disappear .

5 ° Trump was elected AGAINST the Democrats and AGAINST the GOP .

 

There is a lot of talking (by the liberals ) about KSA funding 9/11, but the first decisive proof has still to appear .

 

Where?

 

Canadian militias are manning the border to keep fleeing American liberals out.

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/canadian-militia-vows-to-protect-borders-from-illegal-americans/

 

My two centavos on this is that Trump was elected because people are fed up with the politicians and Trump was not one. Both candidates are terrible choices. So lets go with the one that is different, Trump. He is uncouth, rude, egotistic, etc.....but he spoke out what people were thinking. Yeah, not great thoughts but true nonetheless. I myself have been advocating to vote all of them out every election season. We need to force our will onto those clowns and remind them who indeed runs the show. They are representatives of us, the people. Yet, for several decades, they have strayed from that and went into their jobs to get rich.

I read that there have been only four presidents that did not serve in any kind of political office (congress, senate, governer) and they did ok as presidents. This should be a message to the clowns that the gig is up. Trump wants term limits set for senate and congress. Isn't that what the people want? Yet the House Majority Leader's response was that there already was term limits set, called elections. That flippant response is representative of what I hate.

So, Trump won. The other choice was to have another business as usual politician that was bought and owned, in this case by the banks, to get richer and screw us the people again. I for one say, it's about time.

Nuff said.

 

There is no single reason Trump won and Clinton lost. Yes this was a change election, but the margin was too thin to make this the only reason. Hillary also could not mobilize the Obama voter fully and left 3-5 million votes off the table here. Then there was the ivory tower arrogance that discounted the Rustbelt democrat and assumed they would fall into line as they always did. There were warning notes raised by Bill Clinton and others, but Brooklyn (Hillary HQ) ignored them. The good old buddy network (Debbie 'Back room deal' Wasserman-Schultz, Donna 'Here are the questions early' Brazzelle) did not help either as it soured progressive's and millennial's.

In my opinion though Hillary Clinton lost this election more than 20 years ago.

When Bill Clinton entered the White House in 1992 he touted Hillary as something different in the WH, a 'co-president', a two for one deal for America. To some this sounded new and innovative, but for others this sounded far more ominous as there was no Constitution provision for a First Lady who actually held the levers of power in government. A First Lady traditionally provided a softer side that perhaps promoted social ideas or dealt with issues everyone could agree upon. Almost nothing could be more contentious than Health Care considering it was a major part of our economy. It failed then in part from push back from those who had a bad taste in their throats by her position in the formulation effort. To cap it off, when asked about the future Bill Clinton promised 8 years of Bill, followed by 8 years of 'Hill'.

During the Bush 43 administration Hillary was helicoptered into the Senate seat from New York, despite no real affinity for the State or its people. Clearly this was to position her for the Presidency. We like ambition in our candidates, just not unseemly ambition and the line between the two is razor thin and often a matter of taste. Far worse was the Clinton Global Initiative/ Clinton Foundation. Most ex-presidents have projects after their term, often philanthropic but the CGI/CF was on the level of 'roid rage and greatly blurred the lines of philanthropic, political power and personal wealth generation. Writing a memoir or giving speeches are accepted post presidential sources of revenue sources, but the Clinton's squeezed these for all they were worth, to the tune of averaging 10 million dollars per year over the next 16 years. Bragging about that when so many others, especially reliably democratic rust belt voters were hurting was a open wound that never healed.

The next nail in her political coffin was of course the E-mail server. There was a certain predictable course for a Clinton scandal, first deny there is/was anything there, then blame a right wing conspiracy, followed by a semi admission that there really wasn't much to it all, then admissions that regrettable mistakes were made, followed by the 'that's all old history' and we need to move on. This time though it called into question her personal paranoia over her obligation to protect our national security interests. A lot of people got worse punishment for 'mishandling sensitive material' than her and the '30 minute tarmac meeting' between Bill and the head of the Justice Department only reinforced the image that there were rules for the 'elites' and less forgiving ones for the 'little people'. Another gaping wound that would not heal. Another self inflicted wound.

The final nail was Wikileaks. It didn't so much as add new material as it confirmed what so many thought about Hillary Clinton. Much of her support came from those who said 'Never Trump' (I couldn't vote for him either), but winning a election comes from voting for something rather than against something.

In every respect Hillary needed a Trump to do as well as she did, but then again I not sure we would have a President Elect Trump without Hillary. I have a sneaking suspicion that any of the Republican primary candidates would have beaten her and if Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders had run they would have beaten Trump.

 

Not quite...

Trump is owned by the banks.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nyt-report-trump-owes-money-to-bank-of-china-goldman-sachs/article/2599815

 

Oddly, the banks donated wholly to Hillary, and in staggering amounts. And in those Wall Street speeches she refused to release (that WikiLeaks provided), she spoke openly of her "partnership" with them.

 

The polls prior to Trump being nominated showed all the other GOP candidates doing better against both Hillary and Sanders. Sanders had a huge edge over Trump. Trump won because he's a succesful con man.

 

It's like a car wreck and I keep slowing down to watch.

 

Two things for our non-American brothers and sisters on this site to understand and ponder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6s7jB6-GoU



2016 Electoral map by county.

 

Black man apologizes for Trump vote.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNbF9PI9Gjo

 

You guys seem to have caught the British disease...
"Donald Trump's election victory left millions of Americans in shock, especially those who believe he is 'unfit to serve'.
Americans opposing the election results have showed up in numbers across the nation protesting and letting their voices be heard.
But now, more than three million people have signed a petition for the Electoral College to elect Hillary Clinton as president instead of Trump."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3928944/More-TWO-MILLION-people-sign-petition-Electoral-College-elect-Hillary-Clinton-president.html

 

We haven't shot traitors for quite a while. It could get interesting, since those who support the republic have more arms and ammo by a factor of at least 1000 to 1. I suppose we could just give them all cheap plastic participation trophies and send them home to their parents basement, but that wouldn't be quite as entertaining.

 

This is like signing used toilet paper. Yeah you can do it, but what's the point. The Electoral College casts ballots for electing the president, that's all. It's a long row to hoe to get rid of the Electoral College anyway. And if the Electoral College is eventually overturned, it will be for future elections, not the one that occurred Tuesday.

Again, thank the Founding Fathers for the Electoral College. See USMC Price's entry explaining how the Electoral Collage above. And notice the map showing how the vote was cast by county/parish.

Call the wahbulances.

 

It's like the SNP in Scotland want to break up the UK because of Brexit... You have to go with the flow.

If you lose an election, you should be more united, instead of being so readily to turn your back on the nation.

If it doesn't work, fix it.