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Invade Malta

Discussion in 'Naval War in the Mediterrean, Malta & Crete' started by PzJgr, Jan 5, 2001.

  1. panzergrenadiere

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    No thanks, maybe someone else. Board games just don't grasp my attention anymore, plus I keep losing the dice.

    This is my 100th post. :D
     
  2. C.Evans

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    But I have PLENTY of dice ;)

    As soon as Otto is able, you will have your "medals" on here for show.

    Otto?
     
  3. panzergrenadiere

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    How many post do we have to have to get a medal.
     
  4. C.Evans

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    You get you first "medal" at 10 postings and then a second at 50, then after that I think its a 3rd one at 150? I think I got my 5th or 6th at 1,000 postings. I imagine I will have 1-2 more by now. Anyway, he told me you will continue to "earn" medals up to 10,000 postings.

    Otto has been doing alot of work on getting the "medals" back online and I believe is working on making several other badges to be awarded. I sent him photos of several of my badges--all are German ww1 and ww2.

    There is a 2-place Imperial medal bar that I think he will put here soon and has the 1914 Ek2nd and Lubeck Hanseatic Cross. Other icons I think he will be creating for adding medals will be for a very nice Imperial German Army Regimental Cross which was awarded in 1900, and a Hamburg Hanseatic Cross a Luftwaffe pilots badge, coast artillery badge, Inf assault badge, a KM Destroyer badge, and possibly some multiplace ribbon bars.

    Otto is also working on a future specialized ranking system. Eventually you will be able to pick what medals and ranks you want from whichever militayr you wish--including American-German and British-to start off with.

    With his busy schedule, all this is a massive undertaking for him. Otto is still working on these things as we speak, but I dont know exactly when he will have at least the older medals backup till the new system is finished.

    I have no knowledge on what he has to do to create these medals images, nor do I have a way to help him or I would gladly do so. I dont even have my own computer yet. :rolleyes:

    [ 08 September 2001: Message edited by: C.Evans ]
     
  5. talleyrand

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    I have all sorts of Wehrmacht WWII badges, plus a Blue Max, also a couple WWI Austrian badges for something different if Otto wants pics. I have an Austrian wound badge 1917, and a faithful service badge issued to Austrians in 1917 who had served since 1914. Both are round, US silver dollar size, with a red and white ribbon with the Emperor on one side and the event on the back. All writing is Latin, I believe.
     
  6. panzergrenadiere

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    Thats pretty cool. Where did u get them and for how much? I've only seen world war two medals for sale once before at a gun show and they were all rusted and looked crapy.
     
  7. talleyrand

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    again Ebay has great stuff.
     
  8. panzergrenadiere

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    Ah, Ebay. I'll remember it now.
     
  9. C.Evans

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    Be VERY aware of who you deal with on ebay. A good friend of mine just got taken for $400.00 on a paid for item that was never sent and I was just taken for a $15.00 item.

    If you going to buy REAL militaria, GO TO THE WELLKNOWN DEALERS, like Detlev Niemann or Helmut Weitze, both of Hamburg Germany. Weitzes url is www.weitze.com and I believe Detlevs is on the links pages here.

    IF you put all your money into ebay--you WILL get taken for a ride by someone, I know, its happened to me 3 times in a year and ebay will NOT do a damn thing about it.
     
  10. panzergrenadiere

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    Thanks for the advice Carl. I personally perfere to buy stuff in person at shows.
     
  11. talleyrand

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    In two years of buying on Ebay I have only not received an item once, and that was an $8 book, so no big deal. The vast majority of people are honest, just a few bad eggs which can be avoided if proper checking is done. Always make sure seller has at least 100 auction, no negatives or at least an explanation, email the seller before a bid to see what communication you get, and check to see what other current auctions they have.
    Sorry to hear of your bad experiences Carl, I hope it doesnt sour you to Ebay(I really dont work for them [​IMG] just hate paying high dealer prices)
     
  12. Ste

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Desert Journeyman:

    It's not so much Crete, either. If Malta falls, the British can supply no chain to Egypt, which would similarly fall given the number of Panzers which might reach Rommel. At the time, removing one division from the French regions would not have been too high a concession - save again, if we do not give Hitler the benefit of the doubt.

    The British would be forced to flee the Med., Greece, Jugolavija, Turkey, and the others would then be compelled to fall behind Germany or Italy, deprived of both relief and supply without the loss of a single soldier. Why worry about Crete at all?
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    I agree with the 'why worry about Crete at all?' The success of Operation Merkur was never built upon, in fact the whole thing was not part of a coherent strategy for the east Med.

    However, an Axis capture of Malta would not have cut the British supply route to Egypt. The vast majority of supplies - and all troop convoys - went around the Cape, as the route past Malta through the central Med was just too dangerous. The convoys to reinforce Malta were Herculean efforts mounted at great cost - regular convoys from Gib to Alexandria would have been an absolute shooting gallery for the Luftwaffe and Regia Aeonautica.

    Indeed, rather than closing British supply lines, by neglecting to invade Malta the Axis allowed the British to take a serious toll of their own route from Italy/Sicily to North Africa.

    So yes, it was a missed opportunity, but for a different reason.

    S
     
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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by talleyrand:
    (I think i remember reading in the backstory in the game that during WWII Malta was the most densely populated place on earth)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Most densely bombed, yes, but the city centres of London, Berlin, Paris, NY, Tokyo... were probably much more densely populated.


    S
     
  14. C.Evans

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    Your welcome PzGdr and thanks Tally. I stake everything I have on Detlev being a well-trusted and great dealer. He is a dealer that refuses to sell any fakeries that comes his way--even if he takes a financial loss, he absolutely refuses to pass it onto the general market.

    Ebay in plain language--sucks. I have too many sources for anything I want and I will not be effected by any of Ebays stupid decisions. I might miss many a good item, but--eh, it doesnt matter, at least I know that if I buy from Detlev, Diane, Janet or Helmut, I "Know" my stuff will be real.
     
  15. Jumbo_Wilson

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    Malta would have been pretty easy for the Germans and Italians to swallow: far easier than Crete anyway. Command of the British Garrison was held by Lord Gort of 1940 fame, who ate the same rations as the civilians and pedalled around on his bicycle to save fuel.

    Rommel was never very good at logistics. Malta was astride his supply route and he paid the price for his lack of vision.

    As for Sand Digger decrying British training, I still have not found a British General to match his fellow countryman, Gordon Bennet, who abandoned his men at Singapore and had hysterics in front of his staff.

    Jumbo
     
  16. Friedrich

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    Jumbo, first of all, welcome to the forum. I hope you enjoy yourself here and we hope to see you around oftenly.

    And as I have posted in other threads. Not taking Malta was a fatal mistake. And it was caused by marshal Rommel. Marshal Keßelring had already convinced the Führer to take the Island with an airbourne invasion and seccure the supply lines to Africa. Done this, the Eastern and Central Mediterranean would have been controlled by the Axis, Rommel supply lines could have been secured and he could have taken Suez... But no, our over estimated field marshal wanted to do it all by himself and without enough supplies...

    Even with the spirit of Malta's population and of Lord Gort (certainly, one of the most outstanding British commanders of the war), Malta could not have resisted an airbourne invasion. And I don't think it would have been such a mess, like it was in Crete...
     
  17. C.Evans

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    Tally--after rereading this topic I read your postings on the "Austrian Silver Wound Badges" These arent Wound badges but are Austrian Campaign and War Service Medals. Hungarian ones are similar and have green and white striped ribbons. I have a cased example that is an Austrian Signum Laudis bravery medal w/ crossed swords.
     

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