King Tiger in modern tank warfare?

Hmmm, i doubt it, but it could be true...

 

Re: King tiger

We don't think that!
The conclusion this topic swiftly came to was that the Tiger 2 could have found a niche in defensive battles up until the Cheiftan (arguably) and definately has no role in modern warfare.

 

It they upgraded it after WWII

 

Do you doubt that an Abrams can take out another Abrams at 2km ??

With DU ammunition the 120mm L/44 gun can puncture 960mm of armor at 2km !! An Abrams doesnt have tht kind of Armor !!

KBO

 

But to make it valuable against any modern tank the upgrading would have to be so rigorous as to result in a whole new tank.

What about the Tiger III? Tiger IV? :lol:

 

Before they could build a new tank to effectively combat the Abrams, the war would be over !

An Abrams can 'Garantee' a first round hit at 1800-2000m ! Bye bye German "Über tanks" !!

KBO

 

The Tiger V then.

Basically a land battleship with an 80cm main gun, an 88mm L/71 coaxial, and several meters of frontal armour. Its engine is a triple nuclear carrier engine in the rear of the tank. The tracks are about 20 meters wide in order to make ground pressure somewhat under that of the Maus. A whole AA battery was added at the top to protect the 1600-man crew.

 

LOL LOL LOL

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: The German weapons-scientists were probably mad enough to go ahead with it ! :lol:

KBO

 

I guess the Abrams has about 850mm of frontal armor, but it is put in an angle...

The Leopard2a6 has about 880mm of frontal armor, this is also put in a angle, plus the additional ''hollow'' V-shaped armor at the front, so the frontal armor consists of about 1.8meters of armor...

Maybe that the L/55 (gun on leo2a6) could take it out on 2km+ but i don't think that the L/44 has that much power, but i could be wrong...

 

DU penetrators don't care about angles, as at those energy levels armor and projectile act like metal-fluids !

Also the tests with the 120mm L/44 Rheinmetall gun was conducted against angles !
(30 degree's from vertical i'd guess, wich is standard)

KBO

 

''DU penetrators don't care about angles, as at those energy levels armor and projectile act like metal-fluids!''

It depends from what materials the armor consists

 

I daresay that all the info about Western countries' tanks' armor are estimations. The info about their armor is propably VERY top secret and isn't told anybody.

 

No thats true, but we atleast got to a point that we know its not just steel armor but all kinds of different ceramics like plastic and things like that.

But i think for the enemy that the thickness of frontal armor is not that important anymore, we all know that the back of turret/hull and the roof are the weakest places on a tank, a AT missile that explodes above the tank can easily take it out, that why we need to put some reactive-armor on it just like the Russians.

 

And a botanical garden inside, to provide oxygen and food for its crew.

 

Nomatter what material, plastic or metal, it will become fluid when hit by a DU penetrator !

The energies envolved are litterally enormous !!

KBO

 

I guess a APDSFS from Abe will go all the way through Königstiger.

 

Its not like the DU ammo is like the god amongst the tank ammunitions...

 

It is the best penetrator in service today !

The Germans have come up with some pretty good KE rounds, but they still arent as good as DU rounds, and i can't see how they ever could be. (After all Uranium is 2.5 times denser than Steel ! )

Fact: The 120mm L/55 Rheinmetall gun on the Leopard 2A6 is a more powerful gun than the 120mm L/44 Rheinmetall gun on the Abrams. But when the Abrams uses DU penetrators it will outpenetrate the Leopard 2A6's gun !

KBO

 

Uranium is something like 18 or 19 kilos per litre, how much is tungsten which is used in Leo 2?