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Matrosenobergefreiter Corssen/Trieste 1943

Discussion in 'North Africa and the Mediterranean' started by izi, Sep 26, 2007.

  1. Erich

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    izi :

    I have used this comprehensive site many times past over the years. it may or may not be of help, but the German author is a well known authority on the KM

    Chronik Seekrieg 1939-1945
     
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    Erich, thanks for that link.
    I have sent email to Jurgen and he is going to look at the war diaries for me.
    Again, many, many tahnks

    regards

    izi


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    wonderful please keep us all posted on how he responds with information as I am interested myself. I want to say there was several Flak Batteries in Trieste during the war before capitulation to Allied forces. maybe they were LW only but again may have been a mix especially if right on the coastal head
     
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    [SIZE=+1]Marine-Artillerie-Abteilung X[/SIZE]
    Formed 3.44. In 5.44 became MAA626 in Trieste



    [SIZE=+1]Marine-Artillerie-Abteilung 626[/SIZE]
    Formed 5.44 in Trieste (Stab only) from Marine-Artillerie-Abteilung X. Controlled Italian batteries(?).
    Subordinated to Seekdt. Istrien.



    I include this last one as it was also directed under the same supervision



    [SIZE=+1]Marine-Artillerie-Abteilung 621[/SIZE]
    Formed 2.41 for Greece (1./MAA621 from 1./MAA205). In 6.41 moved to Phleves/Attika with 2 batteries. Disbanded 12.42, and the batteries became Bttr. Tirpitz and Bttr. Breslau in 1943.
    Stab/MAA621 was reformed 9.43 in Constanza (Romania) and moved to Pola in Italy, controlling some independent Italian coastal batteries.
    Subordinated to Seekdt. Attika, and from 9.43 Seekdt. Istrien.



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    another notation and earlier while facing the New Zealanders from 30 January to 10 April 1943, Italiens at Trieste backed up by :

    The 19th Flak Division, with sixteen 88-millimetre batteries and several 20-millimetre anti-aircraft batteries, was all on the coast, the 1st Luftwaffe Brigade, little stronger than a battalion, was behind Young Fascists, and Africa Panzer Grenadier Regiment watched the main Gabès–Mareth road. These, together with 164 Light Division, comprised the only mobile infantry groups available.
     
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    I will call my friend today and hopefully be able to get you the German pension address within a few hours. The British raiding parties and Viz could be a good trail. if he was in British hands your father was probably captured by the British themselves not by partisans. I wonder if anybody knows which Royal navy units were raiding the Adriatic?
     
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    Many thanks, Erich & Skipper67
    I have posted question regarding raiding parties and have found a contact number for Alliied Special forces, will ring them on 01.10.07.
    Will keep you all informed.

    Regards

    izi.

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    Can be an aid British and Other Navies in World War 2 Day-by-Day - Ship Movements, Actions, Losses ?
     
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    Izi. I called the friend I mentioned yesterday (His late father was German) . He said he would look up his father's archiv today and asked me to call again tonight. Hopefully he"ll find the address. I'll post it as soon as I have it.
     
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    I just got an address for Rheinland-Phalz. This is the administration that paid my friend's father's pension ( ex-german pow who stayed in France )
    Landesversicherungsanstalt Rheinland-Phalz.
    Eichendorfstrasse 4/6
    66720 Speyer, Germany
    I don't know if this is the right address for your late dad, but at least you could ask them and they could possibly send you on a track. Hope this helps.
     
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    many thanks Skipper67.

    The letter has been written and is being posted tomorrow.
    Also, a post from Axis History has led me to a book concerning British Special forces on Vis, Commando Force 133, will get it as soon as I can.

    Great forum, can't believe I have got this much in a matter of days.

    will keep you all informed.

    regards

    izi


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    my familie is from the Pfalz not the Phalz, so when you write the letter make a note of the spelling, it is that important

    good luck
     
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    Erich, thanks.

    Has been noted and amended.

    regards

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    my spelling mistake Erich, I was there last month. As I was on a trip to Alsace, I crossed the border and drove to Ludwigshafen via Karlsruhe. Speyer is in between those cities. We also stopped at Heidelberg and visited the old town and bought some Baden wine too.
     
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    oh Skipper had I known you were going to be in Speyer I would have sent infos to you about my deceased cousin who was a LW night fighter ace buried there ............

    my plans are for one days to see the old familie grave-stones and whom is still with us

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    Hello all.
    Recieved a letter from th Bundesarchiv today stating that they do not hold records for anyone under the rank of Captain in the Kriegsmarine. They included a list of some site that may be able to help and names and contacts for people who would do research in Germany for me, [at a fee].
    So, I have more options now, however, have any of you ever used the National Archives in London? or their website?.
    I am having greta difficulty in navigating their website and could do with some help, if at all possible.

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    Izi: A bit of help in my post: Guide of Research in Royal Navy registers

    Navigation in The National Archives | Redirect to The National Archives its more, more dificult[​IMG]
     
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    Hello again,
    Got this info off Forum Marinearchiv

    In february 1941 the Marinebordflakkompanie KRANECK was formed at Napoli, shortly after renamed in Marinebordflakkompanie Neapel and finally Marinebordflakkompanie Süd. Most probably on 01.01.1942 the company was enlarged to a bataillon-seized unit as Marinebordflakabteilung Süd, Neapel, still under the command of Kapitänleutnant (M.A.) d.R. Wolfgang KRANECK, who was promoted to Korvettenkapitän on 01.09.1942.

    On 01.06.1943 the unit was divided into the new 1. Marinebordflakabteilung Süd with its staff at Genova-Nervi and the old 2. Marinebordflakabteilung Süd, the staff of which remained at Napoli. Korvettenkapitän (M.A.) d.R. Wolfgang KRANECK was still in command of the later, assisted by his Aide Leutnant (M.A.) d.R. WOYNOWSKI and until 10.09.1943 by his Deputy Commander Oberleutnant (M.A.) d.R. STEININGER.

    Main parts of the administration moved from Napoli to Trieste on 07.09.1943, the staff left Castellamare for Napoli on 09.09.1943, 0930am, the 4. company was situated at Bagnoli near Napoli at 0130am and the 3. company took defence positions at Leghorn since 0300am. 21 men of the 1. company occupied the seaplane station Portorose near Trieste on 10.09.1943, 1400pm. The following day the same company occupied the yard at Trieste and further positions of the town on the 12th. The 5. company arrived at Gaeta the same day, coming from Bagnoli. The 2. company took defence positions near Torre Annunziata on 12.09.1943 and the administration arrived at Trieste-Grignano, where the administrative officer served as Seekommandant. On 15.09.1943 the 2. company took new defence positions near Torre Scasata, fighting parts of the staff at Torre del Greco and Pordici near Castellamare. Main parts of the 4. company arrived at Leghorn on 20.09.1943, the rest was situated at Forte dei Marmi near Napoli. On 26.09.1943 the 4. company moved to Capanoli near Leghorn and first parts of the staff arrived at Trieste. On 27.09.1943 about 130 men of the 2. Marinebordflakabteilung Süd arrived at Trieste, coming from Genova.

    Again the unit was renamed in 22. Marinebordflakabteilung on 03.10.1943 and since 12.10.1943 Kapitänleutnant Dr. Fritz MEYER was the new Deputy Commander.

    On 11.10.1943 parts of the 2. company arrived at Venice, coming from Napoli. Korvettenkapitän (M.A.) d.R. Wolfgang KRANECK reached Trieste-Grignano on 12.10.1943, also coming from Napoli. The following day it was decided to station the 1. and 2. company at Trieste until a final garrison was found for the later.

    On 30.12.1943 Korvettenkapitän (M.A.) d.R. Wolfgang KRANECK was killed in action.

    Have searched but I can't find any info on where KRANECK was killed.
    My online search did not really bring up anything on this man.
    Obviously they were moving from Naples as that was being taken by Allied forces but as BETFOR said there were no Allied forces in Trieste at that time so I think now that it must have been British raiding parties or actions in the Adriatic that led to this mans death and my father's capture.
    am waiting to speak to Allied Special Forces as I can't get an email to them, hoping they may be able to help.
    Any ideas?

    regards

    izi

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