MOAB

But ricky,i will spent same money on fuel if its double cheaper.It is not good enought explanation why is gasoline much cheaper in US preticulary coz US most of oil import,and they dont import as we do (trough oil pipes) so transport cost alot more for shure.So naturaly will be that gasoline in US is more expencive then EU,and only decent explanation is that US got bigg "discount" from their exporters (read ocupated Iraq,Kuvait they defended).And it come to base of my post-US just protect they own interest not human rights,as they like to present themselfs.

 

sinissa,

Firstly, the majority of oil used in the USA comes from inside the USA (either from Texas, Alasks or offshore oil fields, though I'm sure there are more sources than that).

Secondly, they buy oil at exactly the same price as everybody else. The American government simply puts far less tax on the sale price of petrol/gasoline than European governments do. Therefore American motorists pay less per unit of fuel than European motorists do.

A very simplified example:

The UK and the USA both buy petrol/gasoline at $1 per litre

The UK government decides to place $0.50 tax per litre of petrol/gasoline sold

The USA government decides to place $0.05 tax per litre of petrol/gasoline sold

A UK citizen goes to buy petrol/gasoline, and pays $1.50 per litre

A USA citizen goes to buy petrol/gasoline, and pays $1.05 per litre



It should also be pointed out that the price of petrol/gasoline in America has risen in line with those elsewhere, which surely would not happen if they had some kind of secret deal going on.

 

Actualy i dont belive that US oil sources can be anought for 50% needs,but il try to find exsact numbers.

And that about taxes,is not good explanation coz diference in price is nearly 100% It can be if diference is 10% but that bigg diference,no way.

And can u tell me,if EU get oil trough pipes,what is i belive much cheaper then with tankers,what is price to bring one tanker from Mid east to US?

 

Well, here is a handy page from the BBC on oil prices & taxes in Britain between 1991 & 2000

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/wor ... 933648.stm

So in 2000, the tax was 72.3%.
(63.5p out of 85p per litre)

Here http://www.api.org/statistics/fueltaxes/ shows that US fuel tax was approximately 45.5 cents per gallon in 2006, which (going by the fuel prices found here http://www.randomuseless.info/gasprice/gasprice.html ) is approximately 15% of the price ($0.45 out of $3.00 per US gallon)

A US gallon is also larger than a UK gallon.

So, we have the UK paying 5 times as much tax as the USA,

1 gallon [US, liquid] = 3.8 litres

So, taking our (admittedly 6 years apart) numbers, we get…


USA pays $0.79 per litre, of which $0.11 is tax

UK pays £0.85 per litre, of which £63.5 is tax

OR

USA pays $3.00 per US gallon, of which $0.45 is tax

UK pays £3.23 per US gallon, of which £2.41 is tax

Something must be wrong there, even allowing for the 6-year gap, as by my calculations American basic fuel costs are HUGE, and UK & USA pay roughly the same money for fuel. :-?

 

* U.S. liquid gallon is 231 in³ (exactly) or 128 U.S. fluid ounce (exactly) or 3.785411784 litres
* U.S. dry gallon 4.404 884 L
* Imperial (UK) gallon is 160 imperial fluid ounces (exactly), or 4.54609 L (legally). That is approximately 1.201 US gallons.

Source is Wikipedia,but i dont think that it this ishue is unreliable source.
SO if u based that US galon is bigger then UK galon ur calculation is totaly wrong :lol:

 

Ricky is correct on one part. Here, I pay 48 cents per gallon tax on gasoline. Today it was $2.19 per gallon for the lowest octane fuel. Of that, 48 cents is tax. Some cities have a special fuel sales tax that is added in as well but that's after the fact.

Let's look at this:
1 cubic foot is 7.5 US gallons.

 

I think the word "pertrol" is simply marvelous, besides the point. The gas were I live is only about 2.10, the price has pretty much stayed the same as 10 yrs ago because the US $ has lost some.

 

[quote="sinissaSource is Wikipedia,but i dont think that it this ishue is unreliable source.
SO if u based that US galon is bigger then UK galon ur calculation is totaly wrong :lol:[/quote]

Your source is correct, but so was mine.

Bottom line though, UK customer pays ~75% tax, USA customer pays ~15% tax.

That covers the difference in price quite well...

 

So....MOAB......Walmart have 'em? :lol:

Anyways, if the States have those why do they still need thier nukes?
It's a lot less damaging (not that 150m is a 'light' bomb) compared to even tactical nukes (200lb or so with blast yeild up in the 10Xkilotonnes range)

Didn't 'Nuclear Deterrance' become a pointless subject at the end of the Cold War? Nukeing a nation harbouring terrorists would earn the States an even more unwelcome reputation in thier enemies countries (ie, a good chunk of the world?)

Yeah......

(crap.....I though the Daisy Cutter was a chaingun of sorts.....)

 

A MOAB has it's specialized uses but it is in no way comparable to a nuclear device.

One would have to be very naive to accept that view. There are thousands of nuclear weapons in existence still and new countries trying to become nuclear powers in the future.
Nuclear deterrence continues to be more necessarythan ever. The danger is perhaps greater than it was during the Cold War because the situation has become somewhat fluid and unstable compared to the Cold War years where the ground rules were established and understood.

 

To paraphrase Thomas Jefferson, "It's like holding a wolf by the ears. You don't enjoy it but you don't dare let go."