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Discussion in 'The Guns Galore Section' started by Simonr1978, Jan 7, 2008.

  1. Simonr1978

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    Passing stricter gun control laws has always been a ploy by governments to make the citizens "feel" safer without actually requiring the government to really do anything about crime. They then go around taking the newly outlawed guns from the law abiding owners but do absolutely nothing to stop the criminals who are using the guns first place.
     
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    interesting peace of information.

    Bush didnt bring back the Full-auto fun ban, but crime in most major citys is dropping to record setting levels. coincidence?
     
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    It's doesn't matter about working guns, these guns are DE-ACTIVATED as in they don't work. If you see what they have done to my Bren Gun, SMLE and the M1911 it is just not plausible to re-activate them, it would simply be cheaper to import/buy one of the black market illegally.

    but the ban just isn't plausible, they know roughly how many de-acts there are in the UK as de-acts post 1988 were usually (if not all) were sent to proof houses where there records are kept, but to buy or sell them, you do not require any form of paper work, so the government simply don't know where any of these de-activated guns are.
     
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    Knowing this government, they will make it a crime for the "Registered Keeper" of the deactivated weapon not to know who it has been passed on to.

    Oh, I forgot, they save that for really serious offenders... like motorists :evil:
     
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    the only gun law in the usa to show any impact on violent crime is the liberalizeing of the concealed carrie permit .making it easier for ordinary people to carrie concealed guns .this new "luck of the draw ", problem makes the habitual predatory criminal much more skittish and less confident .

    in any us citys where it been implemated l , MORE GUNS =LESS CRIME

    a question for any brit; what would it cost you to puchase a berreta ,colt ,browning ,ect handgun on the black market , do you know anyone who has ever done it? what happens if you get caught with one ?
     
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    I believe around £400, so around $800 US.

    Not telling.

    IIRC you face a sentence of up to 10 years in jail for illegally possessing a firearm, more if it can be proven that you intended to use it.
     
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    I believe its now 15 years +
    but don't count on it.
    There are also rumours of people renting guns of the black market so the £400 cost (i thought it was lower than that) isn't too daunting if yu can rent it for a short time
     
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    You may well be right, I got the 10 year figure (With mandatory minimums for some cases depending on what you're caught with of either 3 or 6 years) from the CPS website, but to be fair it was a rather lengthy document and I may well have missed the 15 year figure. Either way, with the current anti-gun/knife atmosphere politically int he UK you're not likely to get a lenient sentence.

    It's worth pointing out too that you can be prosecuted under the same laws for carrying air weapons and "realistic immitations" too.

    As for the price, you may well be right on that one too, that's just the number I've heard from people who know people, I've neither the inclinition nor contacts to go checking that thoroughly myself.

    Out of interest Woody, why did you ask?
     
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    I cannot agree with u. When Serbia prohibited to any non police/military person carry a weapon, number of killing was droped greatly. It is highly related with temper of ppl of this region.
     
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    Amendment II to the Constitution of the United States reads:

    A well regulated milita being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to have and bear arms shall not be infringed.

    I still have difficulty understanding how this is interpreted to mean guns for all with no governement "regualtion".
     
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    :grin:

    [insert joke here]
     

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