Most Evil men of WW2

Umm, try foreign repression, nationalism, widespread antisemitism and economic malaise. Remember, Hitler's group was one of many quite appalingly fanatical political factions in Germany at the time.

No, unfortunately I haven't seen Conspiracy, but I've read Fatherland, if it can make you any happier...

 

No, he committed seppuku, disembowelling himself with his short sword. I understand that he refused the coup de grace usually given in such circumstances; it took him hours of agony to finally die.

 

Hm. :-? I guess other cultures have different ideas of honour and how to save it...

 

Indeed Roel,

Some other cultures even have different perspectives of what evil is.

My vote would go to Heydrich.

And Doenitz would definatly be part of my list of better people than worse.
As well as Kurt student.

 

It has been suggested that Ohnishi felt great remorse for having helped send so many young Japanese out to useless deaths, and that he refused the coup de grace as a gesture of atonement.

 

I was always under the impression that that was an event in Lebbanon by a Hezzbollah.

 

Actually that was a joke. I just recently read something about Onishi, and it said that "there was nobody present to deliver the usual relieving blow. It took Onishi 12 agonizing hours to die"...

He himself apparently felt that Japan was in dire straits to ever have to use Tokkotai pilots (or Shimpu, or Kamikaze).

 

I suppose it was to much to hope that the treatment meted out to allied POW's weighed that heavily on his conscience

 

Hitler doesn't stand a chance against all the cruelties Stalin made.
I think Stalin killed far more people than Hitler.
Mao Tse Tung isn't my favorite guy either...

 

Well, Stalin had no racial theories, and genocide is still a greater crime in most minds than cruel repression...

 

It is an interesting comparison.
Stalin certainly killed as many as Hitler if not more.
Stalin had his racial hierarchy - Russian first, Ukranian second, etc.
Stalin did try hard to exterminate sections of the population - Kulaks, for example.

 

I think he had racial theories but the main idea was to keep different peoples obedient to him. Massacres, mass deportations and exterminations were well hided. So called enemies of the people were executed or imprisoned in work camps. It is impossible to think that Stalin would have exterminated entire peoples because the great size of the soviet union must be taken to consideration. There was a huge difference in germany and soviet union, there were very different cultural areas in SU(mongols, tatars, arabs, lithuanians etc.). It alone makes the idea of total exterminations of peoples completely impossible if you understand what I mean.
Heres couple of examples what kind of tricks Stalin made:
1932-33 Stalin planed starvations and it is estimated that 5 million ukrainians died and millions of others.
Late 1930's Stalin commanded "the great purge". Soviet union reported that about million were executed or deported. Others say about 30 million.

The main thing for Hitler being the most evil man in history is the fact that Germany lost the war.

 

The Jappenese man who formed the Kamakazi was incompetent for doing it, but not evil.

If incompetence=evil then Chamberlin would be on here for Munich, and he would outrank him by a long shot, with Gamelin and Daladier close behind for inventing the Phony War (Refer to my comparison of the equivalent of Munich today).

Hitler ranks way above Heydrich in my opinion because Hitler operated before Heydrich joined him and after his death.

Stalin was a racist, and did have genocide against jews planned that never happened because he died before he could give the orders.

However it should be remembered that Stalin had more time then Hitler and that his intention was slavery a lot of the time not murder, but the way he kept the people he used his power to enslave caused their deaths.

 

Well, now, for some reason I feel that 12 million people killed purely because of his madness for "racial pureness" do make him sort of an evil man. I don't know how you see that...

Okay, so Stalin did have racial theories. However he did not, with 'German' thorougness, systematically eradicate whole peoples. He may have planned to do so but the sheer cruelty and humanity* of the acts of Nazi Germany add to the cold facts such as number of deaths.

*Yes, humanity. Inhumanity does not apply, for animals are unable to commit genocide. Only humans are.

 

ohh you misunderstood me Roel. Hitler wasn't very nice fellow either, I just wanted to point out that Stalin is sometimes seen as a loving father and protector of people, hero or demigod and that's because he won the war and Hitler lost it. It has affected Stalins reputation very positively. So basically it is a bit difficult to compare Stalin and Hitler.

 

I have never seen it tought that Stalin was a hero in any western classroom, I have seen some russians look at his rule with nostalgia, but that is all I saw in terms of Stalin commemoration.

Hitler was more evil then Stalin because he acted on his racist views, although it should be remembered Stalin had plans to do it.

However taking into account what they did Hitler was the more evil of the two.

I don't see how the inventor of the Kamakazee made his way here, he should be with Chamberlin Daladier and Gamelin as most incompetent, not with Hitler Stalin and Heydrich as most evil.

 

In his birth town in Georgia Stalin is still worshipped as a hero - he certainly put that little town on the map...

Heiik: I wasn't doubting your moral view, I was just pointing out that Hitler's losing the war doesn't make him more evil to others than he really was. Stalin won the war, but his image of father and shpeherd of the Soviet Union only lasted to the late fifties; after that even the SU followed a policy of Destalinization.

 

True, although there are still those in Russia who think Stalin was the greatest thing to come down the pike since sliced bread. :roll:

 

but Doenitz was not a nazi ( non of the kriegsmarine like the nazis)

 

Do you count the U boats in that, I believe that they were, and some still have right wing inclinations (according to a German soldier I know).