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  1. TiredOldSoldier

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  2. Carronade

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    Italian heavy cruiser, Zara, Fiume, or Gorizia; their sister Pola had an enlarged bridge structure, I would guess for use as a flagship. Unlike most Italian cruisers, they were well-balanced and well-protected. Great photo!

    The Italian "tinclad" 8" cruisers Trento and Trieste, and I think Bolzano were flush-decked whereas this ship has a raised forecastle.

    Also of note, the aircraft on the forecastle. An unusual feature of many Italian cruisers was the catapult and hangar located forward.
     
  3. TiredOldSoldier

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    You are correct but I want the individual ship, there is enough detail in the photo to identify her.

    The picture must be early in her life as, besides the macchi rather than wartime INAM Ro 43 floatplanes, she still carries the after pair of 100mm guns that were replaced by four twin 37mm mounts before the war.

    BTW Bolzano was not flush decked but had a catapult amidship between widely spaced funnels like the later Condottieri groups.
     
  4. Carronade

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    <Homer Simpson voice> d'Oh!

    The name Zara is on the stern!!

    I'm also not very computer literate, so I'll let someone else post the next photo.
     
  5. TiredOldSoldier

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    And in pretty big lettets too.
    Thought about "erasing" it but the picture is a naval modeller's dream so I didn't want to tamper with it.

    This ship is pretty unique

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    Don't erase it, it's too funny, even if it's at my expense!

    The new ship is unique, but the name isn't; there have been several Jeanne d'Arcs. This one and her successor were each the French navy's training ship; I believe the last one was recently retired or is about to be.

    Thanks!
     
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    Jeane d'Arc is correct !

    Didn't last long, should have picked something harder.

    Are you still leaving it open?
     
  8. Gromit801

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    If it's open......

    [​IMG]

    My Dad was shipwrecked on this.
     
  9. Kevin Kenneally

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    Looks like he really was "ship-wrecked"....
     
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    Looks like the ship from the 1960s classic "Mr. Roberts". Just missing the palm tree....

    Actually,

    No clue on support vessels.

    More of a "Cruiser" guy...
     
  11. Carronade

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    My Dad was shipwrecked on this.

    Is this the "before" or "after" picture?

    Seriously, we shouldn't denegrate the humble auxiliaries. As Willie Keith says in The Caine Mutiny, "The big boys just set the time and place of the victory won by the Caines." I'll guess it was originally a civilian ship, taken up for naval service, perhaps a netlayer?

    There's a curious distortion in the photograph. If you look at the shrouds supporting the foremast, the starboard ones are clearly to the right, indicating that we are viewing that part of the ship from astern, but the Oerlikons side by side abaft the funnel look like we're seeing them from ahead. It's as if the ship is bending away from us. There's also a bit of multiple imagery around the shrouds.

    If it's my turn, you can assume I'm leaving it open.
     
  12. Gromit801

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    I hadn't noticed the digital glitch before. However, it's not really a big deal.

    And let's not insult the choice of ships. If it's too "beneath" you, don't try to guess on it. A lot of the bigger ship would be in deep doo if it weren't for a lot of the little ship/boats doing their job.
     
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    Whew, that is going to be tough one, Gromit. You may have to lay some subtle clues out there for us, if you don't get any hits.
     
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    USS Hornbill AMc-13 ? hmm maybe?
     
  15. Gromit801

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    Hints I got: Shipwrecked near New Caledonia.
     
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    Is that a Picture from WWII if so looks like the S.S. Evelyn. In February 1942 she became USS Asterion (AK-100, later AK-63), which was employed as a "Q-ship" in 1942-1943.
     
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    Nice picture but it's really hard to find something this size unless you stumble on it by accident. My copy of Janes shows nothing resembling it, can't even guess what her job was :).
     
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    Another hint. I know it's a pain, but it was Dad's boat. She was a degauzing vessel. Any more than that, is a give away.
     
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    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    YDG-4?

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    YDG-4 Class District Degaussing Vessel (Self-propelled):
    Laid down, date unknown, at W.F Stone, Oakland CA. as the freighter SS Santa Monica Official Number 117115

    International Radio Call Sign: [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] Kilo - Juliet - Xray - Zulu
    Launched, date unknown
    Completed and delivered to J.R. Hanify & Co., San Francisco, CA. in 1902
    Purchased by the US Navy from her owners, Hobbs, Wall & Co., San Francisco, CA. circa 1942-43
    Initially assigned the designation of Yard Patrol Craft YP-528
    Converted to a District Degaussing Vessel
    Commissioned USS YDG-4, date unknown
    Assigned to the Pacific Service Force
    Ran aground and sunk at Bulari Passage, New Caledonia, 1 October 1943
    Struck from the Naval Register, date unknown Specifications:
    Displacement 318 t.(lt) 497 t.(fl)
    Length 166'
    Beam 34'
    Draft 12'
    Speed unknown
    Complement unknown
    Armament unknown
    Propulsion two cylinder compound engine, 400hp, single shaft

    What did your father have to say about the grounding,etc?
     

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