Northern Ireland Conflict

I guess I wasn't paying attention.

 

I don't recall hearing it on the Dutch news either.

 

Yes I heard of it.[/quote]

I did, too.

 

Approximately 30 years ago Jean McConville a catholic and mother of 10 was kidnapped from her home and murdered by the IRA. Her crime was to go to the aid aid of a fatally wounded British soldier outside her home. The IRA only gave the location of her body 30 years after her murders.

On Monday evening on Irish national television the Chairman of Sinn Fien (the political wing of the IRA) Mitchel McLaughlin stated that while the murder was wrong it was not a crime!



The question has to asked can there be hope of peace in the North when there are people whose moral code it as twisted as any pediophile?

 

Peace will come when you get rid of those people, Ebar, and not one second sooner. The fact that the leader of the IRA's political wing doesn't consider her death murder indicates to me that none of those in the IRA at any level really want peace.

 

That is the problem in a nutshell, really. :cry:

 

This goes for all terrorist (criminal)groups.

 

More good news... :roll:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4231753.stm

 

Unfortunately this is where political desire runs into ugly reality. The IRA (and for that matter all of Northern Irelands terrorist groups) are basically organised crime. It's a bit like asking the mob or the mafia to give up that whole criminal thing.

 

Just like ETA and their political puppets.
After all, they imitate IRA in everithing that serves them.

 

Has it really become nothing but an organization existing purely to sustain itself? I thought they had an actual program to "fight" for.

 

In the beginning maybe, but these long standing organizations have no purpose today.
I doubt if the terrorists achieved independence they would work at a bakery or being mechanics or sales representatives. At least those here if you listen what they say.

 

Yeah, sadly, the number of times it has got to the point where both sides talk, then a guesture is needed by both... and then the IRA backs off.
And so the dance begins again.

They're just sustaining hatred, really.

A few pages back I mentioned about the Eire elections - go back & find it, it makes this point well.

 

here's a history lesson in easy terms: England take over ireland. Colonists come over from England.There all protestant .Ireland all catholic. english treat them very bad.The irish are bitter.they get angry.they start using physical violence.loyal english colonists flee northwards.england say"fine we'll have a referendum.all the colonists that fled north outnumber catholic Irish. North stays , south goes. finally most protestant english flee from ireland. mostly catholic left. plus higher catholic birth rate. they want to be part of ireland. I.R.A still exists. Period. Sorry about the colors and the way i typed it

 

Good summary. Says it all really. The initial invasions were by Catholics, as Protestants had not been invented by then, but basically all true.
And the nucleus of the problem: Those bloody Normans.
Yes, it was they who first invaded Ireland with a view to conquest, and installed the 'English' presance. :angry:

 

A bit of an oversimplification perhaps, but as a one paragraph summary not bad at all.

 

I think the current situation could be summarised as

Republicans want to be part of Ireland
Unionists want to be part of Britain.
Britain wants to give the North back to the Irish but...
The Irish while happy to aspire to a united Ireland aren't stupid enough to actually want to take the North.

 

not correct

protestants in norhern ireland came from scotland not england, that is where they settled there have been there for hundreds of years.

dont know who taught you history at school but what u have written is histrorically accurate.

 

sorry that last bit should say inaccurate

 

Didn't that have to do with the infamous Plantation of Ulster?