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Other Chances to Win World War II

Discussion in 'What If - Other' started by SOAR21, Dec 16, 2008.

  1. Miguel B.

    Miguel B. Member

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    Not to mention rather cool uniforms!



    Cheers...
     
  2. flammpanzer

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    well maybe she was, by looking at the picture of your face in the gallery...
     
  3. von Rundstedt

    von Rundstedt Dishonorably Discharged

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    Why do the usual serial debunkers always come on to the what if section and decry anyone who hypothesises a German victory, they knowing who they are never ever adds anything to the argument with their own versions of how Germany could win. I mean i would once like to see what someone like JCFalkenburgerIII, MiguelB and Tomcat. I mean they don't mind adding bucket loads of senarios when it come to an allied victory but nadda on the Axis.

    If these individuals had their way the whole What If sections should be eliminated, but then again if it was their post scores would dry up.

    v.R
     
  4. urqh

    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    Great...Ill tell me dad and his brother and the thousands of other Eire Irishmen that they joined the wrong side when they didnt even need to join anyone.
     
  5. Tomcat

    Tomcat The One From Down Under

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    Now now, there is no need for that. We have oposed your statments wit facts and if you don't like it, well to bad.

    Had they had the technology to develope an atomic bomb, don't you think they would have, considering that they were building V rockets and the sort, and at the end of the war Germany was hell bent on destrution of teh world with their super weapons, I am positive that had they had an atomic bomb, they would have dropped it on say, England.:rolleyes:
     
  6. urqh

    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    I think Za is quite pretty...come on...own up...all those that think ZA is quite pretty vote now....
     
  7. usmc7thmarines

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    I didn't know you were all former members of the intelligence field over 60 years ago. Yeah I made alight error, I meant heavy, was up way past my bedtime debating with some civil war soldier. HAHA

    Yes this topic is all a matter of opinion since none of us truly know what went on behind closed political doors.
     
  8. Tomcat

    Tomcat The One From Down Under

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    I thought you marines were supposed to be the 'cream of the crop':p
     
  9. JCFalkenbergIII

    JCFalkenbergIII Expert

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    It has nothing to do with us being "former members of the intelligence field over 60 years ago" LOL. It does has to do with the heavily documented and readibly available information on the German Atomic research and other subjects. Not to mention you being totally wrong about Einstein's role in the Atomic bomb program. :p. :D
     
  10. Sloniksp

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    Is that where you get your bushy eyebrows from? :D :D :D
     
  11. flammpanzer

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    One thing is supporting facts, other thing is saying im stupid and thats how i got it. Well maybe i dont know that much im still 18 you know?.
     
  12. von Rundstedt

    von Rundstedt Dishonorably Discharged

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    Stick to your guns flammpanzer, the usual suspect will gang up on you, if you make any mistakes, take my word for it.

    Now onto this silly debate on German Atomic Weaponary Development, Hitler himself as far as i know was not all that interested in developing atomics, also as far as i know that Germany did have enough uranium to produce a viable fissionable warhead but they did not have the facilities to produce it, plus most of the scientists in this particular field had fled Germany.

    But say Germany did have the facilities to produce atomics, i bet one test bomb in the far north Norway with Hitler present would have changed his mind.

    v.R
     
  13. urqh

    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    Hey we can all be stupid.

    Wisdom doesnt come with age grasshopper.....just look at...well me then.

    All the folk want is a reasonable line of evidential background. Can be supposition by all means as long as it is then known to be your own personal opinion.

    No one on here will have a go at you because of your age. If that was the case we would have put za in a home long ago. Now theres an idea....
     
  14. JCFalkenbergIII

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    It does make one wonder doesn't it Za? You really don't see alot of "What Ifs" concering the Allies or others. How about what could the Western or Eastern Allies have done to defeat to Axis earlier and with less casualities? But that doesn't have the same appeal to those who would have liked or wanted the Nazis to win.
     
  15. Falcon Jun

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    Good point, JC. Are we following up on that question?
     
  16. Tomcat

    Tomcat The One From Down Under

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    You should never use your age as a defense for a lack of knowledge, but only continue to learn, listen and study. There is nothing wrong with not knowing it all, because nobody does, but making ridiculous remarks and then attempting to argue them with nothing more then an uninformed opinion is just silly mate.
     
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  17. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    Actually I was thinking of somewhere else...

    Certainly not, for some reason Allies enthusiasts do not suffer from the same Wet Dream Syndrome that other do. It must have something to do with those sexy black uniforms.

    We have younger members that actually do pretty well.
     
  18. Tomcat

    Tomcat The One From Down Under

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    Absolutely, perhaps they are setting the level of information for there ages, and we are expecting that all the time?
     
  19. Devilsadvocate

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    The reason is easy to figure out; the Allies succeeded! The Axis failed and failed miserably. If you can perform, you do, if you can't, you dream and scheme about it. People who try to make the Axis win through what-if's are simply saying, "Hey, I could have done better than those losers!"
     
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  20. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Thats goes without saying LOL. But sometimes you can notice that the ones who tend to create these "What Ifs",and some of those who drawn to these,are the ones that would have liked the Axis to have won. Not just because the Allies did. And when presented with the facts and logic as to why the "What If?" would not work or be feasible then they get bent out of shape when shown so LOL.Also the concept of backing up thier opinions and statements with infomation and sources seems to be problem for them. Most here are able to do that though. But some tend to get upset when questioned for those. The responses they give should be stated as "IMO" or "IIRC". But even opinions are based on information and "Facts". So being asked for the source(s) for them is not unreasonable . One example is a newbie who made seveal inaccurate and totally wrong statments. When asked for the sources for what he stated and shown the facts that were correct he claimed that they were his "opinion" and that we were attacking him for it. Not that the fact was incorrect. Nor would he realize that we wer trying to help him by presenting him with the correct infomation. "Opinions" are fine when presented as such. But be prepared to back them up and to be corrected if need be.
     
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