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Panzerknackern - Holders of the Tank Destruction Badge

Discussion in 'WWII General' started by charlie don't surf, Dec 14, 2002.

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  1. C.Evans

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    Great List CDS--keep up the great work on it. I havent come across any others these last few days and weeks.
     
    C.Evans, Jan 19, 2003
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  2. charlie don't surf

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    Thanks Carl! I appreciate that you keep an eye open.

    Best regards/ Daniel [​IMG]
     
    charlie don't surf, Jan 19, 2003
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  3. C.Evans

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    Hi CDS--not a problem. ;)
     
    C.Evans, Jan 20, 2003
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  4. charlie don't surf

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    Carl, I've sent you an pm that I think you might find interesting. ;)

    best regards/ Daniel
     
    charlie don't surf, Jan 20, 2003
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  5. C.Evans

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    Thanks for letting me know--I was about to go check mails again before leaving for the evening.
     
    C.Evans, Jan 20, 2003
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  6. Panzerknacker

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    ORIGINALLY POSTED BY CHARLIE DON'T SURF Panzerknacker, please see the thread on thirdreichforum about panzerknackers, there's some evidence there that says that Viezenz only destroyed 7 tanks.

    Yes CDS-It would appear in the only pic that we have all seen of Oberleutnant Gunter Viezenz that the TDBs he wears would not equal 21 kills, however-on all sources I have viewed, he was credited with 21 "confirmed" kills....

    It is also now impossible to find out for sure:-
    1) Viezenz passed away in 1999
    2) He kept very quiet and refused to talk about his war years.

    And with one photo existing of him (my favourite photo in the whole world) [​IMG] - we may be left unable to tell if he ever wore a Gold TDB-If in fact he had...we could surmise that he had more than 7 kills as we all know, it wasn't easy to get such a decoration awarded without proper authorisation.....
     
    Panzerknacker, Jan 23, 2003
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  7. Panzerknacker

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    Yes Martin-'Addi' Peichl was one of the best panzerknackern, however he was critiscized harshly on battlefront.com for his size....
     
    Panzerknacker, Jan 23, 2003
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  8. charlie don't surf

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    Size? What do you mean, the number of tanks he claimed to have knocked out or what?

    PS. I've sent you a pm.

    Best regards/ Daniel
     
    charlie don't surf, Jan 23, 2003
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  9. Panzerknacker

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    Daniel-No, Peichl was a rather rotund fellow, and his soldiering was crfitiscized by many as such.

    Cheers, Daniel-I got your PM and have now replied.
     
    Panzerknacker, Jan 23, 2003
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  10. charlie don't surf

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    Aha, so he was criticized because of his size? Well, he did knock out those tank and I think that speaks for itself. ;)

    Best regards/ Daniel
     
    charlie don't surf, Jan 23, 2003
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  11. charlie don't surf

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    I've updated the list, thanks to Carl for discovering and telling us about the great site Die ritterkreuzträger!

    PS. Panzerknacker, I didn't recieve any pm... :confused:

    Best regards/ Daniel

    [ 23. January 2003, 06:17 PM: Message edited by: charlie don't surf ]
     
    charlie don't surf, Jan 23, 2003
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  12. Panzerknacker

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    I think you got it now Daniel-You sent a reply.
     
    Panzerknacker, Jan 24, 2003
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  13. charlie don't surf

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    Sure did, I've replied to it as well. ;)

    Best regards/ Daniel
     
    charlie don't surf, Jan 24, 2003
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  14. C.Evans

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    Quite welcome Daniel. That site has some nice new ideas incorporated in it. I like the display of some of their awards with each bio.
     
    C.Evans, Jan 24, 2003
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  15. velux dakramen

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    yes, very interresting list, happy to see you are putting so much time in it. Well done. [​IMG]
    Also thanks for the link to the KC site; nice site.
     
    velux dakramen, Jan 24, 2003
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  16. C.Evans

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    Hi Velux--thanks but the site that is online isnt mine. I do have a written list of over 4,000 RKTs completed, but not ready to be online until I can get the rest of the RKTs--then the Oak Leaves--then the Swords and finally the Diamonds. Ill try to do more as soon as I can get in a few books to complete research on many of these men.
     
    C.Evans, Jan 24, 2003
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  17. Erich

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    Daniel :

    I am not sure if I sent you some info on RK Walter Kühn. I think I did. Well I just previewed a letter written in schrift to my freind Helmuth Reichert of Infantrie rgt 43 of 1st Infantry Division.
    Walter received his RK in October of 43 on the Ost front of which he served until wars end while in 3./Pz. Jgr abt. 1. He was serving as a gunner of a flak piece, possibly 2cm and destroyed at least 4 T-34's with a Panzerfaust in which he was awarded the RK. From then he was trasferred into the 1st or 2nd Kompanie as a Sturmgeschütze Kammenduer. I have no idea how many kills he got while commanding one of these. He then was captured by the Soviets on April 24, 1945 and remained in Soviet captivity until September 4th 1949 in which then he was released and moved back to Germany.
    At the time there is no dates given for his "kills" but I am writing him within two weeks to get his overall impressions and will post once the return letter arrives. He is in at 80 years and am hoping his health is good.

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    Erich, Jan 24, 2003
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  18. charlie don't surf

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    Hi Erich, actually I haven't recieved any info on him so thanks for posting it. It will be exciting to read about this man's story.

    Best regards/ Daniel [​IMG]
     
    charlie don't surf, Jan 24, 2003
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  19. Erich

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    Dang, I wish I could post his RK posed pic. Quite a handsome guy with the killer look. Daniel you have seen this pic correct ? A side view of the right of his stug wrap showing his 4 "kill strips" the only chap in the Panzerjäger Abteilung to have the Ritterkreuz as far as I am aware.....

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    Erich, Jan 24, 2003
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  20. charlie don't surf

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    Hi Erich, I don't think I have. If you want to you can email it to me- I'll send a pm with the address.

    Best regards/ Daniel
     
    charlie don't surf, Jan 24, 2003
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