Pearl Harbor, 5 myths and one "What the . . ."

OpanaPointer · Dec 30, 2008

Devilsadvocate said:

That's an interesting assertion.

You mean the Japanese Foreign Office was just kidding around? They just sent the 14-part message on a whim? It would be astonishing to discover the Japanese sent the 14-part message, and in the process risked telegraphing their intent to open hostilities, because some diplomats somewhere were bored and had nothing better to do. I can't believe anyone would seriously suggest such an absurd idea.

Even "diplomatic ploys" are meant to accomplish something. Nations don't send diplomatic messages just for the hell of it. So what was the purpose behind this "diplomatic ploy"?

Which says nothing about why Yamamoto didn't include a provision in the plan to abort if the carriers weren't there. After all, he was really concerned that the attack catch them in port. It was you who suggested that he would logically abort the attack if something he was really concerned about didn't eventuate.

I thought your logic required Yamamoto to include an abort provision in the plan if everything wasn't going as he hoped it would? Your logic still doesn't track, and I'm beginning to wonder if you even understand what was really going on.
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Tell you what, if you can provide me with information contrary to what I've stated, please do so.

You get the last word, I'm finished.

Devilsadvocate · Dec 30, 2008

OpanaPointer said:

Tell you what, if you can provide me with information contrary to what I've stated, please do so.

You get the last word, I'm finished.
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You haven't stated anything, except that it wasn't Yamamoto who insisted on the 14-part message.

Obviously, you can't prove that, nor do you have any clue why the message was sent nor who insisted on it. I've referenced two sources who say, or imply, it was Yamamoto who wanted it sent, but they aren't conclusive.

So, as I stated in the beginning, the mystery remains; why was it sent, what did the Japanese hope to accomplish by it, and who was behind it?

OpanaPointer · Dec 30, 2008

Devilsadvocate said:

You haven't stated anything, except that it wasn't Yamamoto who insisted on the 14-part message.

Obviously, you can't prove that, nor do you have any clue why the message was sent nor who insisted on it. I've referenced two sources who say, or imply, it was Yamamoto who wanted it sent, but they aren't conclusive.

So, as I stated in the beginning, the mystery remains; why was it sent, what did the Japanese hope to accomplish by it, and who was behind it?
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Must have been PFM.

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