pearl harbor possible conspiracy theory

The second Gulf of Tonkin Incident was a false flag and even McNamara admitted it didn't happen. There are so many factors in 9/11 with the Pentagon and Twin Towers, where do I begin. Check out Susan Lindauer, the murders of whistleblowers first.

 

Actual evidence? It that allowed in a [Pearl Harbor] conspiracy theory thread?


(Edited to ensure post was on topic.)

 

Actual evidence is allowed in conspiracy theories, however, it is limited to actual smoke and actual mirrors.

 

I like!

 

Don't forget the actual tin foil.

 

Gulf of Tonkin, yes. But 9/11 I don´t know, it´s way to confusing and no real info and/or proof who really did it or better why the FBI/CIA/air defense was quasi non existent on this day. I don´t like to speculate on this topic, cause it´s too confusing - I only know the official story has some holes. But those can easily explained by military secrecy, too.

But that is too OT.


So on topic:

Regarding PH, I believe it happened as told or is written by history, cause there was no need for a false flag, the IJN would have attacked anyway as proven it was a complete plan by them---------- Remember they attacked not only PH but also DEI, Phillipines & Malaya.

 

Yup, contrary to Hitler who needed a false flag cause he at least wanted to have his attack seem to have some reason.... I mean "Sender Gleiwitz", so the German people were tricked into thinking the Polish were the agressors.

Probably the best known flase flag by Hitler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliwice_Radio_Tower

The Gleiwitz incident was a part of a larger operation, carried out by Abwehr and SS forces.[3] At the same time as the Gleiwitz attack, there were other incidents orchestrated by Germany along the Polish-German border, such as a house torching in the Polish Corridor and spurious propaganda output. The entire project, dubbed Operation Himmler and comprising a number of incidents,[7] was intended to give the appearance of Polish aggression against Germany.[5]
For months before the 1939 invasion, German newspapers and politicians, including Adolf Hitler, accused Polish authorities of organizing or tolerating violent ethnic cleansing of ethnic Germans living in Poland.[7][8]
On the day following the Gleiwitz attack, 1 September 1939, Germany launched the Fall Weiss operation – the invasion of Poland – initiating World War II in Europe. On the same day, in a speech in the Reichstag, Hitler cited the border incidents, with three of them called very serious, as justification for Germany's invasion of Poland.[7] Just a few days earlier, on 22 August, he had told his generals, "I will provide a propagandistic casus belli. Its credibility doesn't matter. The victor will not be asked whether he told the truth."[3][5]