Pentagon 3-day Blitz Plan for Iran

Well, I would have guessed either Russia or the USA - but as it is you asking I will say USA

I know that the UK does as well, and France actually uses a suprising amount.

 

As a percentage ? The French. About 79% of their power is generated by nuclear. The Swiss about 42%. The Japanese about 30%. The US and Britain about 20%.

 

Since America has the highest total energy consumption of any country in the world, that probably puts them at the top (might be wrong). The question is - why exactly is this relevant? :roll:

 

Because we were discussing nuclear power stations.

 

And?

I would be more worried about a few badly maintained reactors than legions of good ones (cough Commies cough). If the US produces the most power - so what? There has never been a US reactor that has dumped fallout over large amounts of Europe. Leave that to our lovely eastern neighbours. :roll: :roll:

The "worst" accident that the US ever had with nuclear power resulted in 0 fatalities.

 

I think that the point was that Getting in a funk over nuclear power stations can be seen as being rather... hypocritical. In certain lights.

But I'd feel happier if sinessa would make that clear.

Then again, it might just have been a throw-away comment.

 

I think i was clear on that...Western world is largest user of nuclear power in the world,with Russia and Japan as i see. What is legitime right to stop any otther to use nuclear power too?

 

er...well ...SOME people belive that the iranians are makeing use of nuclear power for things other than lighting up the discos and nightclubs of tehran ...and since the iranians have lots of oil ,they really have a hard time selling the world on their need for nuke power plants ..the iranians are building weapons ..they question is ..should we let them ?? i think its not such a good thing and neither do the jews and arabs ..no one wants the persian gulf to become persian again....

 

I read in my latest issue of 'Private Eye' that, thanks to the government keeping the price of oil at a ridiculously low figure (after recently being raised by 25% it is still only equivalent to 11 cents a litre), Iranians use so much petrol that they have to import 40% of their petrol, at a yearly cost of $5billion. Bizarrely, they have introduced petrol rationing.


Edit - found some more background info on Iran & energy:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle ... 688984.stm

 

More rumblings - this time from France

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle ... 997935.stm

 

wow ricky ...even the french ...this madmanajihad in tehran insists he is going to have the bomb and ...if things continue status quo , he will likely get lots and lots of bombs via air mail and all for free and some might even come from france ...god is great...

 

Really? Can you prove it?

 

nope i cant prove that the nazis murdered 6 million jews either yet there is little doubt in my mind that they did..hundreds of thousands of documents ,testimonies, photos ,books ,public records ,russian and anerican movie footaqe ,interviews .... the nazis own anal retentive record keeping ...a veritable mountain of evidence ...yet some otherwise sophisticated and educated people prefer to look at some tiny crackpot denial conspirecy theory which is laughable and sad really ..on youtube there are a group of japanese bloggers who insist the 1937 rape of nanking is a myth ..they also are laughable and pitiful...and even loathsome imo ...tiso ,i once visited the pearl harbour monument and looked down with my own eyes at the rusting hulk of the arizona ...but even if i never ever made that trip , i would still KNOW for a fact that the arizona is there still leaking bunker C oil after 65 years ..some people think 911 was the work of mossad ,some people think elvis is alive ,some people think the world is flat ,that the moon landing was all shot in a movie studio ...some people are idiots

 

I didn't ask you about proving Holocaust, rape of Nanking.... but i did ask you about Iranian A-bomb program!

 

i guess the us,uk the israelis and even the french have all the evidence they think they need to take rather drastic measures in iran ..i personally think we should just take amadmanajihads word for it that his nuclear program is strictly for powering the hot tubs ,boom boxes and mixed drink blenders of the party animals of tehran ..those mullahs love to boogie down ...

 

How come this sounds familiar? OH yes this is just like those Iraqi WMD's that are still missing.

Acctually we do have IAEA to do the work

 

a former top iraqi af general claims all the wmds were secretly airlifted to syria prior to invasion ..the iaea is going to do what work?

 

LOL,so where is produced,made in china?

 

hmmm... sinessa , the topic was posted here somewhere with a link to a youtube video , but now i cant find it ,help anyone? i think it was csp or fng or revere that posted it...

 

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In spite of a lot of hot air , Iran has not formally breached any IAEA rules !
The whole huff is about their intentions and they are asked to prove that they don't have any ?
About as nonsensical as asking Saddam to prove that he had no w.m.d. !
How do you prove a negative ?
Their program has been inspected and so far conform to the metrics of a civilian use , enrichment is a funny and expensive way of doing things but as long as the Iranians stay below 10% U235 it is strictly " kosher "
they have every rights to deny increased inspection under the additional protocol , as they have not ratified it , only the main nuclear non proliferation treaty
The main obstacle for the Iranian republic to go for nukes is they don't have 95% U235 and will not get it until they can control 6000 high speed centrifuges working in a cascade for a couple of years , so far they can't go over 6% .
alternatively they could go for a plutonium bomb , but one need spend fuel from a reactor to start , the Russians have withheld the fuel rods for Bushehr and the supply contract stipulate that the spend fuel is to be send back intact to Russia anyway .
their heavy water plant who could make the stuff has been opened to the inspectors to show good faith .
All this crisis is totally manufactured by the present U.S. administration and conform to the template of the w.m.d. hysteria preceding the irak war

...Diplomacy "paint by number"..


The whole press campaign is read Iran-side as an excuse to attack them
and destroy the only gulf state not licking American boots,
They have been demonised and made into total nutcases witch is simply stupid , they are as sane as any fundamental christians and blodd enemy of the salafist of the Taliban or Al quaeda
They point out that Israel , Pakistan and India have nukes an nobody seems to care .


A surgical strike is a fantasy , how would the U.S. citizens would react if China had a surgical strike on Montana , maybe full-on war , maybe irak and Afghanistan having common borders to the west and east of Iran would come under direct pressure , maybe the Persian gulf would become a shooting Zone illuminated with burning supertankers ?? maybe the last personnel from Baghdad would be evacuated from the roofs of the green zone , while under fire ?

It is easy to assume that Iranians would get bombed and grovel , hardly their frame of mind in the past
maybe Washington has wisdom denied to humble mortals but my bet is the whole middle-east would become very twitchy and support of the U.S. rare on the ground , including Turkey !

I believe that it's all a bluff , the Iran strike option could go apesh**t so fast , so deep , so sticky ,it give me cold sweat to contemplate something so profoundly moronic ,
not only because it would be a crime , but because it breach the first rule of statesmanship
Don't do something without accepting all the possible consequences

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