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  1. colton5419

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    Hello, I have a very small assortment of stick pins, a medal etc that were given to me a while back and I have no information on them, what they are or what they are worth.

    Any information would be greatly appreciated! I know they are not all from WW2 but I believe some are, and some before.

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    Second: NSDAP Party Badge sstickpin.
    Fifth: Sudetenland Medal - minus ribbon
     
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    I think the Czech Annexation medal is cast...better pics would help though.
     
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    Fourth is a 1930 Weimar regime Heimatfest pin celebrating the birth of a man called Gritter . It's "a day tinny"
     
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    The fifth:

    "Medaille zum 1 Oktober 1938" / "Sudetenlandmedaille"
    Sudetenland Medal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The second:

    Parteiabzeichen der NSDAP = Party insignia

    The fourth:

    Not related to National socialism, it's a commemorative needle to Adalbert Stifter, an Austrian Writer. It reads :

    Ad. Stifters Geburtshaus 1930
    Heimatfest Oberplan

    translated that would mean:

    House where Ad. Stifters was born
    1930 "Heimat" festival Oberplan

    Oberplan is the village in Austria where Stifter was born.

    I learned something new this morning, there is no english translation for "Heimat".........http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimat
    Adalbert Stifter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    I haven't found out about the others
     
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    I'm quite confident it reads Stifter! Google "Geburtshaus Adalbert Stifter" and you will get photos of the same house depicted on the pin.
     
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    Good show as it's stiffter, the picture was a bit blury and I had a hard time to decypher it. I also hesitated between Adolf and Adalbert when reading the "AD" abreviation.
     
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    Yeah...the Czech medal is 100% a cast fake. You can see casting evidence all over the place. I bet if you took a good picture of the 'rim' you will see a casting seam.

    I see a few other things in there that I have my doubts about...but I'll see what everyone else thinks before I say anything.

    Rich
     
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    I also hav doubts for the Sudeten pin. It almost looks it was pinched on the rim and cleaned with some abrassive product.

    I 'm also having a suspicion for the 1942 pin, regarding the quality of the brass alliage.
     
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    In my opinion the Czech Medal, NSDAP stickpin & the Polizei stickpin are no good.

    The only ones I like are the Kriegerbund stickpin (1st pic), Tag der Polizei tinnie (3rd pic) & the 1930 tinnie (4th pic).
     
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    The Dap pin looks fine to me though.
     
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    I'll be glad to take more photo's if there are any concerns, I had to use my iPhone and the images were very hard to make clear. Here is another angle of the "Czech Annexation medal" that is assumed to be a cast, I'm not really sure what I'm looking for on it so here it is, I don't see a seam or anything of that nature.

    Images at an angle of Czech Annexation medal: View attachment 15778

    I tried to bend it with light pressure and it seems strong, and the detail on the small elements such as the swastika inside the eagles wreath are very sharp and clear
     

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    here is pic of a good one for comparison

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    I notice the one I have has a lot of white substance on it, the good one in that picture only has a little bit at the bottom inside the wreath. What is it?

    I never cleaned these, but I'm not sure about they guy who had them before me - he only gave me these and several stamps out of a huge collection he had of all sorts of items

    It almost looks like there is blood on a few of these, but I could obviously be wrong
     
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    I have never seen such a set up on the NSDAP pin before. You have to use some deduction here...look at the pin and how the pin is attached to the badge itself. This is sloppy...the pin has no 'foot' or pin plate that attaches directly to the badge itself. The pin looks like bailing wire that was cut yesterday...these features could lead one to believe that it was an early piece...except one big problem...why does this badge have half enamel and half hand painted surfaces?

    The Czech. medal looks like a hot mess in my opinion...it just looks soft with no detailing. It could still be the photos...but I much doubt it.

    Rich
     
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    I was curious to the black as well, it seems shiny and smooth and most images I could find were rigid and not shiny (on the NSDAP) but I just don't know why these would be faked?

    The Czech medal seems very solid to me, but how would i know? If you flip it like a quarter from your thumb it makes a very nice ringing noise if that helps at all.
     
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    Here are two scans I did, I was reading other posts on the forum and a lot of people appear to use scans. I don't have a great scanner so they didn't come out too great.

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    That is much better!

    Still have my doubts about all three though...I have gone back and forth on themedal...but I still do not like the ring for the suspension ring. It just looks strange to me. I'll take a look around and see if I can find one like it.

    Rich
     

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