Political Correctness -What Do You Think

Surely that's a trap the PC crowd have made for themselves? If they were truly politically correct they would accept someone else's viewpoint as a valid human experience. Denigrating someone purely because they have a different opinion?? Oops how un-PC can you get? :lol:
We had a "talk" on PC where I worked a few years ago - they made the guys in the office take down their calendars - engineering firm freebies with scantily-clad/ bikini-clad females on them. The first person to object to the ruling was the sole female in the office, because she wanted to keep her calendar with (half-naked) firemen! When told it was OK for her to have a calendar but not the guys she asked why. And the answer was... not forthcoming.

Yeah, but soon they'll be a minority then the PC crowd will have to listen!

 

I'm not laughing. PC is how the West ( Europe, North America and Australia ) is literally trying to self-destruct.

PC is the peak of the white mans ethnocentricity. It is based on the perseption that the white mans culture is superiour, and that everybody else ( minorities, other ethnic groups, other religious groups etc. ) are somewhat retarted and in need of special protection or help from us ( the 'adults' of the world ).

The sad paradox is that we are making ourselves weak and exploitable in the process, and that we ( the West ) slowly are becoming victims of cultures which wont see us for anything else than the pathetic creeps we are.

So you're right. PC has nothing to do with common sense, and this is the beginning of the end of our society if we're not waking up soon.

 

Thank you Skua.

 

I stand corrected. Though since you are a Christian, white, heterosexual, gun owning, animal hunting, and no doubt also hard-working and taxpaying man, I take it your view is slightly coloured...

I agree with Skua, PC is paradoxical and condescending. It is also making the West weak and meek.

 

Here in the States,it's getting to the point where anything fun or risky is frowned on.It seems that whatever I take an interest in has some asshole activist group trying to shut me down.

 

Members of Luton Borough Council have to ask for 'Coffee without milk' instead of 'Black Coffee' :roll:

PC is very similar to Human Rights in many ways.

Both were started as a means to protect a few basic things.

PC -> essentially to stop 'isms' like racism, sexism, etc.

HR -> essentially to stop people being used as objects / pawns.

Both have however been taken over by petty-minded people who have created a bizarre and over-lapping structure where saying or doing almost anything is wrong.

PC you guys have covered. It stinks.

HR, well, as an example.
Person A has the right to smoke. Person B has the right to not have to breath Person A's smoke. Both have the right to be in the same room. So who has to give up their 'Human Right'?

In summary - I agree with the basdic principals of them, but the detail is stoopid.

 

The one thing that's always annoyed me, (probably because I'm a literal-minded engineer type) - can any tell me what a "right" is.
Most of the so-called rights are privileges granted to individulas purely because of the pilotical system they live under.
E.G. I have a "right" to free speech because my government isn't too bothered about what I say. If I'd lived in Russia under Stalin I wouldn't have had that "right". I might have tried exercising it, but I'd have suffered....
IMHO there's no such thing as Human Rights, there's privileges that must be earned and maintained by individuals.

 

Oli wrote:

This same idea was talked about, written about and debated centuries ago.
see: Unalienable rights, the Enlightenment, Voltaire, Locke, Jefferson, Franklin et al

 

The Humanist Movement of Norway tried a while ago to arrange a protest against the persecution of Human Rights activists in Pakistan. This protest was to be held in front of the Pakistani embassy in Oslo, Norway and the Humanists approached the political left side, who never miss a chance to protest agaisnt every little thing the U.S. or Israel can be blamed for, but was turned down. They were turned down because the left side politicians DID NOT WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN ANY ARRANGEMENT WHICH MIGHT OFFEND A MINORITY ( in this case the Pakistani immigrants living in Norway ). I don't think a protest in Norway would have made any difference for those Human Rights activists in Pakistan, but this little story still emphasize how PC clashes with Human Rights.

PC has nothing to do with Human Rights. Quite the opposite in fact, just look at how PC has sabotaged most attempts to bring the worlds attention to where Human Rights are compromised in Sudan, Nigeria, Bangladesh and numerous other countries. Just because it doesn't fit the PC mindset.

 

What are you going to tell me about PC, if i'm in the Spanish Army.

And I'm non-nationalist anti-independentists catalan. So by their way of thinking I'm a fascist non-catalan that doesn't have the right to freedom of speech (and that doesn't even covers the military part). :roll:

 

Thanks Grieg, I often feel I missed out somewhere by being technically-educated, rather than "liberal", but it's annoying that when I get good ideas I find some foreigner thought of it a while back :lol:
Will spend some time googling and then visit my library.

 

Here is a fantastic example of PC...

Luton Police have been issued an 18-point guide on how to behave when raiding Muslim households.

These include:

- Taking shoes off before entering the house
- Being careful not to look at or record images of Muslim women who are not fully dressed
- Not touching anything of religious significance
- Not using sniffer dogs
- Not interrupting prayers

This produced a storm of letters to our local paper (some very funny), basically pointing out that:

a) Police do not tend to raid unless they actually have a decent lead
b) these limits will make an effective raid impossible
c) Why should only Muslim houses be treated differently?

My favourite letter was from a Christian who requested equality, suggesting that for Christian houses there should be no raids on a Sunday, all Policemen to carry a Bible, do not touch the crucifix, oh, and leave a donation in the Collection Plate on your way out!

In related news, a reader wrote in expressing outrage that, in the wake of the London bombings, he had seen Police & railway workers perform random checks on a number of people with rucksacks. The cause of his outrage? The checks were always targetted at young Muslim men. Obviously this is disgraceful racism. ( :roll: )

The reader was reminded that all bombers & attempted bombers so far have been from that category, and that it might be a waste of time to start asking young Jewish men (random example - the counter-letter quoted a few more) what the contents of their rucksacks are.

:roll:

 

Hey, everybody knows it was old Japanese ladies who carried those bombs.

 

This, Skua, is one of the most intelligent and interesting theories I have ever heard, however, I really don't believe its intentional (I hope not anyways). What better form of shading discrimination is there than this?

Thank you. I sure would like it if the police did not use a drug sniffing dog in my house.

Political correctness is essential in some areas and ideas, but where does it end? The Land of the Free has become the Land of the Offended, and it is surely the liberals, as much as I support them, who started this over the top PC garbage. Pretty soon the white culture will not even be able to call themselves white, but rather caucasion.

 

I got miffed when I was leafing though a catalogue of kids toys the other day, and they had packs of dolls. You could choose 'white' (pink-skinned dolls) or 'ethnic' (brown-skinned dolls).

Ethnic? wtf?
'White' is an ethnic group too.
Bloody meaningless stupid distinction.

Sorry, I get a little worked up at times...

 

I have noticed this before also, but their meaning of ethnic must be different than the rest of the worlds because peoples of color including whites (such as the Italians, the Irish, the Slovakians, etc) are all ethnic of the area/country they live in. To most of the world western society is ethnic.

 

Hmm... had a look for 'ethnic' on dictionary.com

Interesting.

eth·nic ( P ) Pronunciation Key (thnk)
adj.

Of or relating to a sizable group of people sharing a common and distinctive racial, national, religious, linguistic, or cultural heritage.
Being a member of a particular ethnic group, especially belonging to a national group by heritage or culture but residing outside its national boundaries: ethnic Hungarians living in northern Serbia.
Of, relating to, or distinctive of members of such a group: ethnic restaurants; ethnic art.
Relating to a people not Christian or Jewish; heathen.

n.
A member of a particular ethnic group, especially one who maintains the language or customs of the group.


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[Middle English, heathen, from Late Latin ethnicus, from Greek ethnikos, from ethnos, people, nation. See s(w)e- in Indo-European Roots.]
Word History: When it is said in a Middle English text written before 1400 that a part of a temple fell down and “mad a gret distruccione of ethnykis,” one wonders why ethnics were singled out for death. The word ethnic in this context, however, means “gentile,” coming as it does from the Greek adjective ethnikos, meaning “national, foreign, gentile.” The adjective is derived from the noun ethnos, “people, nation, foreign people,” that in the plural phrase ta ethn meant “foreign nations.” In translating the Hebrew Scriptures into Greek, this phrase was used for Hebrew gym, “gentiles” hence the sense of the noun in the Middle English quotation. The noun ethnic in this sense or the related sense “heathen” is not recorded after 1728, although the related adjective sense is still used. But probably under the influence of other words going back to Greek ethnos, such as ethnography and ethnology, the adjective ethnic broadened in meaning in the 19th century. After this broadening the noun sense “a member of a particular ethnic group,” first recorded in 1945, came into existence.

 

Here's one for ya! I was looking at several small scale collectable WW2 model airplanes recently. There lots of Luftwaffe planes to look at but something about all of them just didn't seem right. Turns out that none of these planes had swastikas on the tails. :roll:

 

Yeah, the swastikas are left off so they can make sales in Europe - it's illegal (AFAIK) in a few countries...
PC rewriting history :-?

 

Thank goodness I live in Britain, where models come fully equipped (mostly)