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PPSh-41, Thompson M1A1, or MP-40?

Discussion in 'Small Arms and Edged Weapons' started by 3ball44, Jul 9, 2007.

  1. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    Because they under their tacical purposes and limitations kill people. That's why.

    Try and use a MG42 for self protection when jumping off a burning Sherman and tell me what you think. That's what the Grease Gun was for! I'm sorry, but not everyone lives in a firing range, sometimes they live under combat conditions.
     
  2. JCFalkenbergIII

    JCFalkenbergIII Expert

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    Or in a video game either. Some have actually fired weapons in real life here. Even in REAL combat.
     
  3. brndirt1

    brndirt1 Saddle Tramp

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    I doubt every piece of this:

    "i have fired mg42s,mg34s, B.A.Rs, the Johnson LMG and the recoil is not that bad."

    That is just simply ludicrous as a statement unless you can prove it outside of a video game scene. My own personal choice for "dead on" distance is and was a Ruger model 1 in the single shot falling block in the 300 Winchester and 170 grain. If you want to shoot with accuracy, that round cannot be beat. My problem (and the reason I bought the Ruger) was one of my buds who started blowing up the power, "spot on" target, and range of the 7mm Mag. in his custom built Weatherby.

    Lovely rifle he had, but really less value than the Ruger I bought the next week. Just to show Pete he had wasted his bucks. He carried his around in a fleece lined carrying case, I kept my Ruger (oil finished walnut stock) on the back of my pickup window rack. It always worked well out to about 300 yards. And it would drop an elk in a shot.

    Of course his would be worth more in trade, pawn or theft. But my Ruger #1 was just as (if not more) accurate.
     
  4. T. A. Gardner

    T. A. Gardner Genuine Chief

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    Sure you have. The Johnson LMG is very rare. Just a quick look on auction prices shows these go for $40,000 and up these days. A magazine is $300+. One owned by Charelton Heston went for over $74,000 at the estate sale.
    I'm sure that you just took one for the day to the range and popped off a few hundred rounds at about $1+ a round these days ($.50 if you reloaded your own). The only time I've gotten to fire fully automatic weapons was on the government tab. They are just too expensive to privately go out and fire.
     
  5. german mauser k98k man

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    i have aways been interested in shooting, i never go to a gun range like some of you city boys and my job does not limit when i can shoot, but it has been years since i fired these weapons and no photos of me shooting them because none were mine, but i weigh more than the average joe to and that could be why full power rounds don't kick that much to me.
     
  6. german mauser k98k man

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    wasn't mine for gods sake
     
  7. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    I remembered some weeks ago you misidentified a Johnson LMG for a FG-42, so now you say you fired one? Why do I get this strange vibes here?

    Here: http://www.ww2f.com/307035-post18.html July 31st

     
  8. german mauser k98k man

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    been a couple years since i shot it back in 1996 i guess i just forgot:(
     
  9. JCFalkenbergIII

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    I have been to the Knob Creek Gun Range for the Machine Gun Shoot. I went a few years back and I do have to say it is awesome. Especially the Night Shoot!! I was able to handle and examine quite a few weapons there. We even rented a coupla machine guns and some other weapons to see how they fired. But I don't remember seeing a Johnson there that you could actually fire. Besides the weapons that I personally own and the other military ones I have had the chance to fire those are the only other opportunities I have had to fire any full auto weapons.

    Knob Creek Gun Range
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  10. Stefan

    Stefan Cavalry Rupert

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    No, it used 9mm because large stocks were captured and enemy ammo could be used in it if necessary.
     
  11. JCFalkenbergIII

    JCFalkenbergIII Expert

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    And the M3 "Grease Gun" could be adapted to use 9mm too.
     
  12. dissipator16

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    thompson all the way! i have always heard the germans feared the tommy. even if this is not true, i would still use the thompson. .45acp!
     
  13. Kommissar

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    If I ever went into battle I want to have alot of confidence in the stopping power of my gun. I'm going to go with the hard hitting Thompson.:)
     
  14. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    Most likely you would be going with what you were issued with.
     
  15. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Like the common groundpounder really had a choice :rolleyes:.
     
  16. Major Hubal

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    Thompson M1A1
     
  17. JCFalkenbergIII

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    :blahblah: :headbonk: :bored: LOL
     
  18. tankie1rtr

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    Hi Guys.
    I have had the privelage of firing two of the above smg's with live ammunition, out of the three I would pick the thompson, it is sturdy, packs a punch, and it feel good to hold, granted it is a bit heavy but you get use to it being lugged around and dont notice it after a while, the MP40 (Schmeisser) was one ofthe most accurate of the three, but it only fired fully automatic, but apart from that it was a wonderful weapon and again very robust, I have not even handled a PPSH-41 so unfortunately I cannot comment, I would love to be able to handle one and check it out if there are any offers.
    regards
    tankie1rtr
     
  19. mikegb

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    Still is it is still widely used on vechiles and as a suplement to the gmpg they are 7.62 caliber weapons like the old SLR so some what better to reach out with than the new LMG.

    If
     
  20. mikegb

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    Still is it is still widely used on vechiles and as a suplement to the gmpg they are 7.62 caliber weapons like the old SLR so some what better to reach out with than the new LMG.

    If it works why change it the old MG42 is widely used in its post war form and the Browning .50 is still used and used with great success despite its age.
     

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