Russian aircraft stikes ISIS

Going to guess the op#1 pic was of a Tu-95MS.
Initialized 1984. Originally carried the RK-55 (AS-15 Kent) LRCM...

Is it possible Russia is still using that tech?

 

The Tu-22 carries about 10 ton less than the B-52, the Tu-160 carries about 10 tons more.

The RK-55(SSC-X-4 "Slingshot") is the ground-launched version, and the S-10 Granat(SS-N-21 "Sampson") is the submarine-launched version.

The Kh-55(AS-15 "Kent"), although similar, is a different design by a different company.

The SS-N-21 and the AS-15 have been modified for conventional service, and are both still in service, with the AS-15 being used in Syria. The SSC-X-4 never became operational, because those types of missiles were banned due to international treaties and those produced were destroyed around 1990.

 

roger that, good call...o, yes, I see the link to the 160...that's where I got the figures from......duh me.....I must say the Russians reacted fast and furious to the plane bombing..
.my other question is how does the aiming systems on the 95 differ from the others? must be archaic? but must be fine if they are launching cruise missiles...since they would not need to be aimed from the launch aircraft? here's a better pic

Poppy, my exact thoughts....

 

Do we have any B1's yonder?
Here is vid of SU30 escorting a TU160, dropping cruise missiles in Syria.
Liveleak
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=65e_1448036526

Been reading much about how the Russians are doing a lot of attacking. RT had a bit about how 600 terrorists were killed by 1 missile...lol...talk about smart tech. "In Russia, missile tells you how many terrorists die."

 

love the video.....makes we want to get an air simulation pc game again....why do the fighters stay so close?? is this SOP for fighter jets? ISIS no AAA or air CAP, but still....

 

That will leave a mark!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGfSbxNsk3U

 

holy cow!--I've never heard of using WP like that......seems to cover large area like napalm--looks like a 200% target hit rate!.....

 

I'm guessing that target is a refinery or fuel depot. WP would be a good way to light it up. WP is now banned, but I'm not going to file any complaints if the Russians want to drop it on ISIS.

 

This is not a proxy war. It is war. The idea of surgical strikes doesn't really work. The Soviet Russians have oft covered a lack of sophistication with BIG.

 

as the saying goes "numbers have a quality of their own"

 

I agree that with ISIS, they are at war with us. We view it as "terror".

No western govt is going to launch a first nuclear strike and not retaliatory unless there is the threat of further action. As someone mentioned, ISIS is in a lot of locations. Russia on the other hand, I'm not so sure.

I do believe that Russia and the US are already at war. Some of the cyber stuff is paramount to war. China not far behind. Minimally, the West is trying to minimize Putin (and this prior to Ukraine). Maybe the West is trying to take him out. Citizens in the West are largely oblivious to this.

The concept of assimilating is a bit of a myth.

Here is only 1 example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street_bombing and there are other Italian terror activities.

I have witnessed first hand, enemies from the former Yugoslavia living side by side in Affton, MO and quite peacefully.

The bigger problem is that "terror" sophistication is much higher than in the past in sophistication, money transactions, and weapons.

Out of millions of immigrants in the past 20 years, there are going to be some extreme elements.

We can't control MEX drug gangs. How could we ever control ISIS? It would take a police state.

It seems to me that there is a high probability (not sure what that number is) that this war ends badly.

Seems to me that if Trump doesn't totally screw up that he (for better or worse) will win. The catalyst will be fear of terror. Not taking a position, just observing.

 

According to: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/wp.htm
White Phoserperous is not banned.

??? It's actually kind of both depending on how you define it. Not sure how that's relevant the rest of your post though.

Actually it does and quite well.

 

Good! It's perfect for ISIS controlled oil and fuel installations. They're making about a million dollars a day selling oil, their main source of income. Wipe it out and you wipe out most of their logistics which is purchased with that money.

 

This, if true, blows my mind.
Who's side is Bama on- US dropped leaflets 45 minutes before the oil trucks bombing, warning the truck drivers to escape.
Unbelievable.
http://www.infowars.com/white-house-gave-isis-45-minute-warning-before-bombing-oil-tankers/

Regarding the TU160's- apparently there is video of Iranian F14's escorting as well.
Good ol Tyler Rogoway
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/new-video-of-f-14-tomcat-escorts-and-cruise-missiles-as-1743807778

 

great videos Poppy....great technology that can zoom in on a missile in flight! if the Russians are over Iran airspace, both countries don't want a FF incident, so the Iranian F 14s escort, I would think......
as for the leaflets, I just commented on this to LWD--if there is a target--HIT IT.... you can't worry about people's feelings in war

 

We dropped leaflets in WWII. It all depends on what you are trying to accomplish and what you are willing to do to acomplish it.

 

Yes, was it Dresden and some cities in Japan?
Heard the ww2 leaflets were used as toilet paper.
Maybe it'd be better to just drop tp and no bombs.Confetti filled missiles, that is how wars are won.




































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another idiotic PC deal.....they will just disperse their trucks!! super duh here! ala Poppy....bombs will kill and destroy...drop as many leaflets as you want.....some one will be killed....totally ridiculous....
that's a great military strategy--tell the enemy when and where you will strike

 

It shouldn't be hard to confirm whether they took advantage of the warning to disperse their trucks, or whether the drivers simply took off running as we told them to. If they were able to disperse and thereby dilute the effectiveness of our strikes, we know better than to make the same mistake next time. We should also know if Daesh was able to redeploy whatever antiaircraft weapons they have or take any other effective action.

We could include in the leaflets that if you try to move your vehicle, you will be destroyed without warning in the future.

If it was me, I'd give five minutes' warning, just enough to run like Jahannam (Islamic equivalent of he!!)

 

I can see some very good reasons for the approach that was taken but I'm not going to go over them here.