I saw your profile post on this topic as well: "The battle of StalinGrad lost Germany the second world war..... change my mind!" I'm not sure I've seen this Stephen Crowder/anti-SJW approach to discussing the fate of the War on the Ostfront before. I do understand that the Stalingrad-decides-all was a widely held belief after the war, but more and more evidence does seem to run against that thought. This is a huge and expansive topic to address in a brief post, but I do think that the failure of the initial Barbarossa offensive entered Germany into an unwinnable war of attrition. While catastrophic, Stalingrad was just one of the grinding steps along the way to ultimate defeat. The German army wasn't designed for nor capable of the huge scale, multi-year, long distance, total war problem that Russia presented. There is even some evidence that points to Stalingrad actually preventing an even more devastating defeat, as it tied up Russian armies that would otherwise have been used to envelope and digest the dangerously overstretched German forces east of the Crimean Peninsula. I'm fairly certainly no one here is even mildly concerned with "changing your mind", but more that a few of the members here would be happy to enter relevant information into the discussion.