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Discussion in 'The Stump' started by Ben Dover, Nov 12, 2016.

  1. Brian Smith

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    It has been coming for some time and now final proof he has fallen over the edge.

    The statement from Sir David Attenborough that we should not have been allowed to stage the EU referendum because we re not wise enough to make such an important decision which such have been left for Parliament to decide raised a few eyebrows (not least perhaps because our politicians are not the brightest bulbs on the tree), but the idiot above seems to have totally lost the plot. We did not fight 2 world wars to loose the right to vote and determine our own destiny.

    Our resident idiot seems to confuse educational achievement with common sense and nous.Some of the most highly intelligent people you meet will have no concept of the real world and how it works.
     
  2. Poppy

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    That a ww2 website has lefty here trying to diminish the efforts of all those who lost their lives fighting for freedom, is more than ironic. WW2 was fought so today's generation could have a right to express their ideas, and live free.

    KSA, and all like nations- suppress women, lgbt and freedom of religion/ideas...How is it that sjw's completely disregard the men /women who fought/died for their right to free speech.

    Blood oil money is spent to corrupt our politicians, media, and youth..
     
  3. Ben Dover

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    I don't think Godwinning applies to a WW2 forum.
     
  4. m kenny

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    If you are talking about the news story about it mainly ( might be wise to find the meaning of that word) being the old & less well educated who voted Leave then by all means feel free to ignore facts and figures.

    The version of WW2 I gave is the main plank of one version of history touted by a good section of the rabid anti-EU crowd and you might want to check it out. I have actually seen it being used on a local politics forum by UKIP.

    Example:

    Problem is that despite everything it was looking like the allies might yet be successful and the war may yet be over by Christmas, it needed a serious spanner to be thrown into the works, senior Nazis needed more time to escape. Enter Lord Carrington.
    Yes Lord Peter Carrington a man who made a career out of sitting on his arse.
    Anyone smell treachery here?


    https://www.bilderberg.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6765

    https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=263885

    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/184228-battle-arnhem-anniversary-commemoration/
     
  5. Brian Smith

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    If you did a bit more thinking and a bit less "cut and paste" you might just manage to say something of your own that made some sense.
     
  6. Ben Dover

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    This is what the future American Ambassador to the EU looks like.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lJlF4uuSr4
     
  7. m kenny

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    Unlike you I happen to know quite a bit about 'WW2' and as such I know all the far fight fruitcake arguments that apply to WW2. I have countered these delusions in factual WW2 forums and you are hopelessly out of your depth here. Some of us are here because we can contribute whilst others (3 posters on this page) mainly post in the Latrine and maybe comment on a book or something they have heard about WW2. The EU=4th Reich is your delusion and it is an insane comparison.
    I need no lectures from someone who can not tell the difference (about 1000 years) between 'Bronze Age' and 'Roman Britain'.
     
  8. Poppy

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    Smell this guy...Right seems to be winning...so tiring, what with all the winning. More to come...just wait and see.
    All that knowledge, and still losing... It's hard for the billiarites to swallow.

    Call us deplorable (winning).
     
  9. m kenny

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    'Right' in USA terms is extreme far right in European terms. As such Europe is and will remain a left-leaning socialist (in US eyes) continent. There is no chance of Europeans giving up their hard-won Health and Education systems so dream on. Farage may have fooled Trump into believing he is a politician of influence but he has stood for election in the UK 7 times ( 1994,1997, 2001, 2005, 2006, 2010, & 2015) and lost every one. The man is unelectable in a civilised society. I have no worries about losing anything .
     
  10. Poppy

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    Not the man. The idea. And it is catching. No amount of words from shills, will overcome the majority- who are tired of living under globalist thumbs.
    soros only has his wallet in mind. Why libs can't see, 1984 is their making... It's all about getting in line, not being free...Men in womens washrooms-really? Talk about fruit cake...they try to mess with the traditional family (where was barry's dad?).

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  11. m kenny

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    II thought it was Clinton who got more votes than Trump?
    'You' are not the majority.

    Let me remind you that UKIP have 1 MP from 650 MPs in the UK. The hard right are an irrelevance in the UK.
     
  12. m kenny

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    Yes the macho-right really got worked up over this because they expected it to be fat pot-bellied bearded blokes wearing ill-fitting stockings and suspenders using female toilets. In reality it was to allow men who looked a lot like women avoid getting the shit kicked out of them if one of them there good 'ole boys decided to give him a whippin for being a fairy in a man's room.

    Perhaps you should check the difference between a Cross dresser and a Trans Gender individual.
     
  13. Poppy

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    Why are we winning so much then. Did you see the Patriots come from behind over the dirty birds... Could only mean 1 thing...Must be a sign that there is more winning coming.
    Viva La France
     
  14. Poppy

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    Yes. i will be sure to check on all 69 words defining lgbt (not).
    When snowflakes have more definitions for sexuality than Eskimos have descriptions for snow- i'm out.
    Care to share your personal definition...just so we can accommodate your precious needs.
     
  15. Ben Dover

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    Theresa May is leading the UK's exit from the EU for the UK;
    The EU being the EU is needed by the UK considering The City wish to trade in Euros too.
    Guy Verhofstadt is an MEP who is leading the UK exit from the EU.
    Citing how Europe is under attack, wanting a single European country.
    These might sound a bit crazy,but in these crazy times, where Donald Trump is the president of the United States, these are facts.

    I for one wish the EU would pick somebody less scary to lead Brexit negotiations on the side of the EU, so I welcome Trump's tipped American ambassador to the EU. If America want to send him, then so be it, yet the EU vows to block this person.
     
  16. Kai-Petri

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    Who else can Theresa turn to? She needs power to back her, otherwise the brexit wont´work. I guess.

    EU is convinced brexit happens and we simply want it to happen as fast as possible. Why wait 5 years?

    And actuallly as Trump demands more money to keep the Nato going ( I think he is entitled to it ,isn´t he ) we now start building our own armies again to make sure nobody catches us with our trousers down, because we cannot be sure NATO will come back if Trump talks with Putin and perhaps won´t care about Ukraine, he might be stuck with China about matters. Then it´s your own army that makes what it can do.
     
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    I think that point needs a little more emphasis, even though it's been mentioned quite a few times. Neither got the majority of votes furthermore the polls showed that the majority of Americans didn't want either Clinton or Trump. The election didn't really provide a mandate for either side and many seem to be ignoring the underlying message.
     
  18. m kenny

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    However as an indication of who is more popular between the two Trump clearly loses.
     
  19. Mutley

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    See Marine Le Pen in France is accused of misusing EU funding http://www.france24.com/en/20170131-france-le-pen-deadline-refuses-repay-300000-eu-parliament-misused-funds-scandal

    As is Nigel Farage https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/01/nigel-farage-among-ukip-meps-accused-of-misusing-eu-funds

    Turns out Nigels not lived a married life for years according to his wife now http://news.sky.com/story/nigel-farages-wife-says-they-have-lived-separate-lives-for-some-years-10758372

    And my favourite laugh of the day. Apparently the footballer David Beckham backed a No vote in the 2014 Scottish Independence referendum in the hope it might help him on the road to a Knighthood. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/david-beckham-backed-yes-vote-9761141 in his defense, David has denied a lot of this.

    Another day in politics and head still spinning like the girl in Exorcist.
     
  20. m kenny

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    Farage is now living with a women who he made sure got a job in The EU and who then gave his party £400,000 of EU funding which they should not have been given. The EU is trying to recoup the money and Farage is telling everyone she is not his mistress and he is just letting her stay as she is 'homeless'.
    Family values of the right!
    Beckham has effectively wiped all reporting of his emails from English and Welsh newspapers. After an initial reporting over the weekend most papers have deleted the online version of the scandal.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4192876/Top-celebrity-secures-new-super-injuction.html
     

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