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The Nebelwerfer 41

Discussion in 'Artillery' started by Martin Bull, Jul 17, 2008.

  1. Miguel B.

    Miguel B. Member

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    They were more accurate but harder to mass produce and delivered a smaller barrage. As stated above, a Katiushka could deliver 14 to 48 missiles per platorm whereas the Nebelwherfer could launch 6 to 10 in veichle mount... I think the small loss in accuracy was more than made up in sheer numbers :p



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  2. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

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    I've just added what must be the smallest item of Militaria I've ever bought to my collection...

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    It's an ERZ39, or Elektrische Raketen Zunder 39 - an igniter from a Nebelwerfer.

    This - I think, although I'm happy to be corrected - is roughly how it fitted.......

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    That is one of the 'chunks' of Nebelwerfer projectile I bought a few years ago, and now given the 'Deox-C' rust treatment.

    Both items originated on the Eastern Front......
     
  3. Erich

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    Martin your last collectible item is from what part of the Nebelwerfer ? ............ if you know
     
  4. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

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    It's the 'venturi', a sort of cast-metal ring 2/3 of the way down the projectile. The holes are bored at an angle ; the black-powder propellant in the nose ( when fired by the ERZ ) was forced through the holes which imparted a 'spin' to the projectile. The base section which fits below the venturi ring is machined and appears to be made of conventional shell steel ( it contains a base-fuze ).

    All in all, a very interesting weapon and I rather wish I'd had the money to purchase a complete example back in 2008......:eek:
     
  5. Erich

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    do you have a schematic sheet on the projectile ?
     
  6. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

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    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

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    Just a heads-up to mention that a quite interesting new publication about the Nebelwerfer is now available : - 'Nuts & Bolts #30 - Nebel- Panzer und Vielfachwerfer' by Baschin/Block/Nelson/Tippmann.

    This is a high-quality softback, aimed primarily at the modeller but with many photographs, some from private colelctions and previously unpublished. It's written in both German and English and , as books about the weapon aren't exactly common, I found it quite fascinating. It's mainly technical, covering design, manufacture and operational use.

    My copy cost £25 from the Ian Allan bookshop in London, which IMPO isn't too outrageous considering the quality.........
     
  8. Smiley 2.0

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    I'm curious but compared to the Katyusha (Hopefully I spelled this correctly) how good was the Nebelwerfer compared to Stalin's organ? a better question maybe is which one would be considered better?
    I've never really known much about the Nebelwerfer and I'm just curious.
     
  9. bronk7

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    yes, I never read much about the different effects/etc of arty vs rockets....hopefully an expert can give as one of those great replies/info
     
  10. Kai-Petri

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    I recall reading both relied more on the morale impact than destruction- the pressure of the bombs exploding and noise made soldiers go nuts and sometimes even heavy fortifications were taken due to the pressure impact. There was also a number of broken shell pieces flying around but the effect on morale probably was bigger than the actual destruction.
     
  11. bronk7

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    I don't see how they could miss much!! granted, they are not ''accurate''....but it seems like they fire hundreds in those salvos..[ I thought '''salvoes'' with an 'e' was ok ]????
     
  12. Bundesluftwaffe

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    Guess troops in good cover would be quite protected against them, compared to 150/152/155 howitzers. The explosive effect of both Kat/Nebel wasn´t so great I read. Probably really more morale. However if troops caught in open... other story.
     
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    good point..yes, if fired against prepared positions, I can easily see not much effect...but in open, ...yes, totally agree here
     
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    Your right, from what I read, especially personal accounts, it was a psychological effect more than physical.
     
  15. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

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    My long-running Nebelwerfer project has moved forward another phase since I first posted the relics pic back in 2008.

    The box of igniters came from e-bay as did the nose fairing. Yesterday I finally acquired ( via Germany ) a complete propellant chamber with venturi. All added to my broken tail-section, it's coming together quite nicely now......


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    Maybe later in the year at the Fairs I'll look out for a better tail section and a transit case......
     
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    is that an actual rocket?
     
  17. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

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    It certainly is - and it's VERY heavy : certainly not something you'd want to drop on your foot...... :eek:
     
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    is it inert? why blue? how heavy?? thanks for replies
     
  19. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

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    It's most certainly inert ( definitely not the sort of thing I'd want in the house if it weren't ! ) and it weighs 35 kilos. Someone painted the centre section blue to consiolidate it : original colours were matt grey, green or sand and one of these days I'll get around to spraying it the correct colour......
     
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    much thanks....great forum here, where you can get not only great info, but great pics of the weapons/etc....yes, you might not want a WW2 explosive device around! [I should've thought about it ]...I enjoy seeing these kind of pictures
     

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