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The Red Barons 80 victories. List....

Discussion in 'Military History' started by C.Evans, Jun 25, 2003.

  1. TA152

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    The pictures that KP posted really shows how cold it was to fly in WWI. Just think how frozen you would feel after 90 mins. in an open cockpit. But it was not as bad as in the trenches.

    I don't know why the Nieuport guns were offset. There is a WWI aircraft forum you could ask this of the members. http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/YaBB.cgi
     
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  3. Stefan

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    I would debate the 'not as bad as the trenches' thing, I mean think about it, troops spent a week in the trenches, a week in reserve and then 2 weeks off the line. Most of the time in the trenches was spent doing very little, action was relativley rare and so on. For a pilot on the other hand, going over the top on a daily basis, often twice a day. During time in the air pilots froze, archie would tear holes the size of a plate in your kite one mission and not scratch you the next. There is nowhere to hide in the air and your opponants are trying to kill YOU! It was ALWAYS freezing cold, a warm day on the ground could be like the harshest of winter nights in the air. Add to that the fact that there was no oxygen supply so over 10,000 feet your head fisrt feels light then begins to ache. Combat necessitated manoeuves that would expose you to powerful g-forces and frequently pilots would land suffering from what amounts to sevear concussion. Combat would often leave brave men like Mannok or Voss shaking uncontrolably. Then you remember that a pilot was constantly shifting between the relativley light atmosphere of the ground and the tense world of combat. I am not trying to say life in the trenches was easy by comparison, just that people often fail to consider how hard life was for a pilot.
     
  4. Friedrich

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    More aces:

    Austria-Hungary

    40 G. Brumowski
    32 J. Arigi
    30 F. Linke-Crawford
    29 B. Fiala
    19 J. Kiss

    Belgium

    37 W. Coppens

    Russia

    17 A. A. Kazakov

    USA

    26 E. Rickenbacker
    22 W. Lambert
    20 F. Gillete
    20 J. Malone
    18 F. Hale
    18 A. Iacacci
    18 F. Luke Jr
    17 R. Lufbery

    Italy

    34 F. Baracca
    26 S. Scaroni
    24 P. R. Piccio
    21 F. T. Baracchini
    20 F. R. di Calabria
    17 M. Cerutti
    17 F. Ranza
     
  5. Friedrich

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    Great Britain

    73 E. Mannock
    72 W. A. Bishop
    60 R. Collishaw
    57 J. T. B. McCudden
    54 A. W. Beauchamp-Proctor
    54 D. R. McLaren
    53 W. G. Barker
    47 R. A. Little
    46 P. F. Fullard
    46 G. E. H. McElroy
    44 A. Ball
    44 J. Gilmore
    41 T. F. Hazell
    40 J. I. T. Jones
    39 W. G. Claxton
    39 R. S. Dallas
    37 F. R. McCall
    35 H. W. Woollett
    34 F. G. Quigley
    32 G. H. Bowman
    31 A. D. Carter
    31 J. L. M. White
    30 M. B. Frew
    30 S. M. Kinkead
    30 A. E. McKeever
    29 A. H. Cobby
    29 W. L. Jordon
    27 J. E. Gurdon
    27 R. T. C. Hoidge
    27 H. G. E. Luchford
    27 G. J. C. Maxwell
    26 W. C. Campbell
    26 W. E. Staton
    25 K. L. Caldwell
    25 R. J. O. Compston
    25 J. Leacroft
    25 R. A. Mayberry
    24 J. O. Andrews
    24 W. E. Shields
    23 J. S. T. Fall
    23 A. Hepburn
    23 D. Latimer
    23 E. J. K. McLoughry
    23 A. P. F. Rhys Davids
    23 S. W. Rosevear
    23 H. A. Whistler
    22 C. D. Booker
    22 W. J. C. K. Cochrane-Patrick
    22 R. King
    22 McK. Thomson
    22 C. J. Venter
    21 P. J. Clayson
    21 R. P. Minifie
    21 G. E. Thompson
    20 D. J. Bell
    20 T. S. Harrison
    20 W. L. Harrison
    20 E. C. Johnston
    20 C. F. King
    20 I. D. R. McDonald
    20 C. M. McEwen
    20 G. W. Murlis-Green
    20 K. R. Park (Is he Keith Park, air marshal in WWII?) :confused:
    20 D. A. Stewart
    19 W. Beaver
    19 H. B. Bell-Irving
    19 C. E. Howell
    19 L. F. Jenkins
    19 H. W. L. Saunders
    19 A. M. Wilkinson
    18 L. M. Barlow
    18 C. F. Collet
    18 A. K. Cowper
    18 F. R. Cubbon
    18 E. Dickinson
    18 A. J. Enstone
    18 E. V. Reid
    18 F. A. Thayre
    18 J. L. Trollope
    18 W. B. Wood
    17 W. M. Alexander
    17 J. H. Burden
    17 G. E. Gibbons
    17 M. A. Newham
    17 E. Swale
     
  6. Friedrich

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    Vive la France! [​IMG]

    75 R. Fonck
    54 G. Guynemer
    45 C. Nungesser
    41 G. Madon
    35 M. Boyau
    34 M. Coiffard
    28 J. P. L. Bourjarde
    27 A. Pinsard
    23 R. Dorme
    23 G. Guérin
    23 C. M. Haegelen
    22 P. Marinovitch
    21 A. Heurtaux
    20 A. Deullin
    19 H. H. de Slade
    19 J. Ehrlich
    18 B. de Romanet
     
  7. C.Evans

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    Great job Fried!! These are impressive lists. I didn't know that the highest scoring British ace had that many victories. [​IMG]
     
  8. Stefan

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    Mick Mannock was a damn fine pilot and an excellent tactician, he was also blind in one eye. He did not shoot down a single aircraft until he went on leave in 1917 when he worked out how to combat the circuses and and hense he rached up 75 kills in under a year, I honestly reckon he was the best pilot of the war, or rather the best squadron leader.
     

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