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Discussion in 'Other Militaria' started by sniper1946, Jul 9, 2009.

  1. sniper1946

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    hj armband £65-£75 would be reasonable price to pay..
     
  2. sniper1946

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    welcome to the forum..ray..
     
  3. sniper1946

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    moderator,this needs to be moved to information request
     
  4. Union Jack Jackson

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    Hi Ray, thanks for the advice.

    Apologies for posting in this thread : (
     
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    not a problem,it'll get more response in info request,regards,ray..
     
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    Message sent
     
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    The first one is known to sell altered citations so be careful. When they were altered is open to debate but certainly post war.
    While the paperwork is generally ok on the second site they also sell other questionable items...a cased RK for just over £3000 for instance!!! The price alone should be a red flag. The RK in question is a post war S&L but being listed as genuine pre1945.
     
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    nothing is straight forward hucks,thanks for heads up,ray..
     
  10. hucks216

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    It never is in this hobby. Even the best dealers make mistakes and even the worst ones sometimes have a gem amongst the trash.
     
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    very true,and it can be a harsh learning curve too..ray..
     
  12. Union Jack Jackson

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    Hucks,
    Do you think either of the HJ armbands (3 or 4 pages in when selecting "Insignia - other") would be worth buying if armbands floated your boat???

    Original militaria from around the world, specialising in WW1 & WW2

    PS. I dont suppose you could email me your list of suggested websites?
    Not sure what's happening in the CP????
    Cheers
    Pete
     
  13. hucks216

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    Armbands & cloth items in general are really not my area so I couldn't comment on these ones I am afraid. I know that his recent tropical police insignia are being viewed as fakes over on the WAF, and cloth items are a very heavily faked area so you may need to be very cautious with this dealer. There is always the chance that he genuinely doesn't know he is selling questionable items in which case you need to ask yourself do you really want to buy from a trader that doesn't really do his homework and is happy to flog the stuff. Here is a link that you may like to read...

    Regimentals bitching about forums - Wehrmacht-Awards.com Militaria Forums

    and another...

    http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80129&highlight=regimentals

    and for dealers with good reps...

    http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55198

    P.S. Email sent.
     
  14. C.Evans

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    You can add a few other sites who are steamed (and for good reason) about some of these militaria forums where they are sometimes unfairly treated.

    I saw some comments made over at Germania International about a known so-called ""ribbon bar expert"" who trashed some of his ribbonbar offerings. I do know who Germania is referring to-and that so-called expert-cost me a 12 place ribbon bar-as well as an excellent almost all Imperial 8-place ribbonbar that also had the Franz-Josef award on it along with the miniature device, and also cost me a 6-place all Hessian ribbonbar.

    Luckily I learned on my own shortly later that even the self-proclaimed total """experts""" can be wrong too. Another well-known case-in-point for me had to do with my Gnerals Collartabs. Had I listened to the detractors about my collartabs-i'd be out of a minty unissued pair of original Gens tabs-and would now be looking for a replacement pair--and at much much higher prices than I paid for the ones I now have.

    Anyway, the other dealers I gave seen that have posted remarks not too long ago-about these forums trashing dealers-are: Third Reich Depot, Black Cross Militaria (whom I have bought from since 1996 and still buy from and last year-named a near mint pair of Generalmajors shoulderboards from) as well as P&K Militaria, Detlev Niemann (and justifiably so) and there was another I was thinking of but it has currently slipped my memory.
     
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    I was going to make a lengthy commentary about what was posted in those threads about the Militaria Dealers in question (as a retort from each of those members whose postings needed rebuttal from) but I found that so much BS was in most of the comments made--soundless, thoughtless and baseless. I also noticed a high amount of ""Sucking-up"" done by members there to certain dealers who are moderators over there. Also, I think that Regimentals has FULL RIGHT to not offer opinions on photos of militaria sent to them based on that what they said-happens all the time--that is-people snatching a pic from somewhere then sending that pic to a dealer for thumbs up or thumbs down--and I imagine that Regimentals has had thousands of such experiances in the past. Now--I certainly am not defending Regimentals from the opinions of some of the posters there as I have never done business with them myself-and most likely never will. However, if I never buiy from Regimentals-it will NOT be because of the tripe I read in several of those postinigs. Luckily there were a fair share of decent people with calm, collected thoughts who also posted opinions and such there. I do not blame Regimentals for not wanting to try to authenticate militaria when all they have are photos instead of the item in hand. Can anyone here blame them for that?

    Now, I know several of those posters there and wa quite taken aback on what a few of them said. A few others I know at least were fair in what they did say. Also, the BULLS@@T comment that I think two posters made there about some of the ways that Regimentals suggested in how to authenticate militaria--are apparently non cloth collectors and also people who don't know Jack-S@@T about collecting. Indeed an honest way to help with cloth identification is by smell. Can one completely imitate the smell of decades on a new r fairly new item--highly doubtful if not impossible. I've done a ""smell test"' on cloth before as well as many longtime and highly respected Militaria Collectors all from the Pacific Northwest. Without naming them, a few of us here wil know whom I am talking about.

    Anyway, I also looked at the thread about reputable militaria dealers and I happen to agree with the vast majority of the dealers talked about. Had I been drinking something at the time when I saw that a few dealers named were highly respected-well, i'd have thrown up-had I not done so earlier. Two dealers I will name by name who do not deserve to be in a thumbs up catagory are peter von lukacs and jamie cross. However, that is just my opinion based on things that happened to me personally and to think I did use to give Lukacs a double thumbs up until the sum behatch screwed me over on a large cloth militaria deal we had going on--in which he chose to take over 14 months to complete-along with dozens of flat out lies and half-truths. But that's a story that's already been told. Same goes for jamie cross. There are 2-3 other dealers listed there as trusted who also don't belong in that spot--and if anyone is interested-send me a PM or an email and ill gladly tell you anything you want to know.

    As for the rest of the dealers-such as Heusken, Detlev, Weitze, Hardin, Winkler, etc etc etc, Those ARE some darned great dealers to buy from. I've bought from all of them in the past-and only from Heusken & Weitze lately-but they are great to deal with. There were I think three there that I had never heard of before so will be cruising through their sites sometime.

    Anyway, to end this--wouldn't you as a perspective buyer-wouldn't you want to at least give a dealer the benefit of the doubt when they merely said (which I saw that everyone who bitched-had not read between the lines of what the Regimentals columns writer tried to say--missed the boat on that one) The Regimentals author merely meant that because of all the deceitful bastiches out there who have or would have sent them pics of militaria for authentication that was not theres-why in hell should they HAVE to waste their time trying to authenticate something that is not in hand??? Would you do the same--unless you know a little something about the person your possibly wanting to do the same with? Not me.

    I have a deal ongoing with a forums member here who I have not dealt with before but-I can tell and have been told by a feww-that he is a genuine good guy-as told to me be a few here-which was also by people I highly respect and know-so therefore-I have no problem in dealing with this Gentleman. This Gentleman is giving me the same benefit of the doubt--which I greatly appreciate. Sefl-admittedly-I have transportation problems--which is well-known by people here and at WTG--and they know that if it takes me awhile to get something sent--especially if it is overeas--its only because I have no way to the nearest postoffice nearest to my home--which right now-is about 5 miles. TRY walking 5 miles each way in Texas summertime temps mixed with about a consistant 90% or higher-humidity factor.

    Anyway, on the few dealers I have not heard about--ill check their sites out after I get back from a short vacation and will give an opinion on what I see-amounts of militaria offered as well as prices. However, of course on those I can't say more as I have never bought from them but do suspect that for the amount of great reviews they recieved from the members from that other website-that they must at least be decent folks to deal with.

    WHEW--im tired from all the quick typing.
     
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    "WHEW--im tired from all the quick typing." - Wow...I'm exhausted just reading it!

    Many thanks for your responses chaps....it seems like this collecting malarkey is one big minefield!!!! I guess its just years of experience which helps you avoid those mines.

    Cheers
    Pete
     
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    A Minefield it sure is. Like a blind person walking through a minefield at that.
     
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    just been to the head office at arnold nottingham. what a complete a** hole . i rang to get an appointment but got no answer. i live locally so nipped down . knocked on the door and a person shouted from behind the door can i help you . i said id like to view a deac colt pistol to wich i got reply were not a shop . i said id rang for appointment but got no answer he said make appointment online so i thought im wasting my time here and went to my car . 1 minute later a gangly male walked out from the shares entrance fag in gob and a cuppa so i asked are you from the the militaria shop to wich i got yeh . ive nipped down to look at the deac colt . right. well is it possible to see it . no. so why all the security .its a gun shop. oh right ive got a full FAC and shot gun certificate infact i was granted my licence when i was a member at the club that was there before this shop took over . oh. have you got any live firearms then . no . what about shotguns. no . so why all the security . its a gun shop. ALL I CAN SAY IS NO WONDER HE IS A MAIL ORDER SHOP
     
  19. Martin Bull

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    Which adds to my theory that you do come across some odd people in the militaria business. Sometimes one gets the feeling that actually selling something is the last thing on Earth they want to do............
     

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