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Was Stalin a Great Leader or a Mass Murderer?

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    All are from Marx, the Communists ... declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions is from the communist Bible; "Manifesto of the Communist Party" by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.
     
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    That it would take violence to establish Communism doesn't mean that ongoing violence was envisioned as a fundamental part of it. The problem of course is that Marx ignored a lot of human nature in constructing his utopia. Communism on a large or even a moderate scale simply is at odds with basic human nature and will either fail or morph into something far from what Marx envisioned or most likely both.
     
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    Marx ran out of time to envision such distant future he didn't even finish his, mostly concerning with the past magnum opus Das Kapital.
     
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    It's not that he ran out of time he simply didn't understand humanity well enough for his prognostications to have any accuracy. The fact that his system morphed into something other than what he envisioned before it really even came into existence is a rather classic proof of that.
     
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    It's not either or, he was both a great leader and a mass murderer.
     
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